Why register with the Steelers Fever Forums?
 • Intelligent and friendly discussions.
 • It's free and it's quick. Always.
 • Enter events in the forums calendar.
 • Very user friendly software.
 • Exclusive contests and giveaways.

 Donate to Steelers Fever, Click here
 Our 2014 Goal: $450.00 - To Date: $450.00 (100.00%)
 Home | Forums | Editorials | Shop | Tickets | Downloads | Contact Pittsburgh Steelers Forum Feed Not Just Fans. Hardcore Fans.

Go Back   Steelers Fever Forums > Steelers Football > Pittsburgh Steelers


Steelers Fever Fan Shop

Doc's Sports Get FREE NFL Picks and College Football picks as well as Football Lines like live NFL Lines and updated NFL Power Rankings all at Doc's Sports Service.

Steelers Fever Presents...

Steelers Panthers

GAMEDAY
Sunday, September 21, 8:30 PM
NBC
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-31-2005, 03:52 PM   #1
tony hipchest
IRONMAN a.k.a. Tony Stark
 
tony hipchest's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Give me back my game...
Posts: 39,225
Member Number: 658
Thanks: 1,885
Thanked 8,097 Times in 3,458 Posts
Default ben a pro bowl alternate?

i say yes. most will say jake plummer, trent green or drew brees.

ben has 17 td and 7 int
jake 18 td and 7 int-3200 yds
brees 24 td and 15 int
not sure about green but ben has played in 4 games and 3 quarters fewer than these qb's.but still has a
better winning %, td%, and passer rating.

sure its nice that in his 8th or 9th year plummer has finally figured out to not make mistakes but ben is figuring this out in his 2nd season. doesnt ben have as many playoff wins as all 3 above put together? why dont people talk about these 3 qb's being carried by their running team? after all isnt this the knock on ben?
tony hipchest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2005, 04:05 PM   #2
clevestinks
Living Legend
Supporter
 
clevestinks's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,326
Member Number: 302
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default Re: ben a pro bowl alternate?

I would vote Ben as alternate! But I may be biased!
__________________
<b>BLEEDING BLACK & GOLD IN OHIO</b>[
clevestinks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2005, 04:08 PM   #3
tony hipchest
IRONMAN a.k.a. Tony Stark
 
tony hipchest's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Give me back my game...
Posts: 39,225
Member Number: 658
Thanks: 1,885
Thanked 8,097 Times in 3,458 Posts
Default Re: ben a pro bowl alternate?

i thought i was biassed too until i saw the numbers of the 2 qb's in todays game. bens are actually better if you projected the games he missed.
tony hipchest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2005, 04:24 PM   #4
Suitanim
Banned
Supporter
 
Suitanim's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
Posts: 6,086
Gender: Male
Member Number: 591
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: ben a pro bowl alternate?

"Never! All he does is throw screens to Parker"

< Dumbassed Browns fan who will remain nameless >
Suitanim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2005, 04:47 PM   #5
Brady12
Team Captain
 
Brady12's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Saskatchewan
Posts: 877
Gender: Male
Member Number: 973
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: ben a pro bowl alternate?

I wouldn't vote Ben in as alternate... I'd easily take Brees or Plummer.
Brady12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2005, 05:10 PM   #6
tony hipchest
IRONMAN a.k.a. Tony Stark
 
tony hipchest's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Give me back my game...
Posts: 39,225
Member Number: 658
Thanks: 1,885
Thanked 8,097 Times in 3,458 Posts
Default Re: ben a pro bowl alternate?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brady12
I wouldn't vote Ben in as alternate... I'd easily take Brees or Plummer.
thats easy to say without stating why. plummer? you got to be kidding. have you examined their numbers? (actually plummer may have a better winning % this year than ben. ben has 3 losses but had he played a full season wouldve easilly beaten jakes td, yds, and int #s and tied his winning %)

Last edited by tony hipchest; 12-31-2005 at 05:13 PM.
tony hipchest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2005, 05:36 PM   #7
CantStop85
Living Legend
 
CantStop85's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
Posts: 3,140
Gender: Male
Member Number: 486
Thanks: 0
Thanked 21 Times in 7 Posts
Default Re: ben a pro bowl alternate?

You have to play more games to get any pro bowl consideration. Had Ben not missed any games he probably would have been an alternate.

Trent Green has 3,670 yards, 16 TD's, 10 INT's
Drew Brees has 3,508 yards, 24 TD's 15 INT's
Jake Plummer has 3,275 yards, 18 TD's, 7 INT's
Ben has 2,250 yards, 17 TD's, 7 INT's

I don't see how you could vote Ben over any 3 of those guys. We can speculate all we want about how many yards and TD's Ben would have thrown for had he not missed 4 games, but that would be voting more on reputation than anything else. If Ben had played a few more games and gotten around 1,000 more yards passing, then he would have been an alternate...thing is, he didn't.
CantStop85 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2005, 05:42 PM   #8
Brady12
Team Captain
 
Brady12's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Saskatchewan
Posts: 877
Gender: Male
Member Number: 973
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: ben a pro bowl alternate?

How do you know this? You don't, Ben may have played a poor season, he may have played a good season. When a player misses time, you can't say how he would've done. Maybe not plummer, but definitely Brees would be a candidate for an alternate. The guy has come far in two years, and obviously that is stated, as he was Comeback Player of the Year last season.

IMO If you only play 12 games in a season, and you are a Two Year pro, I don't think you should be playing in the Pro Bowl. Thats nto to take away from Ben, it's just respect for the Veterans. You can be sure, that in 1 or 2 years, if Ben is having a good year, he would be considered more than he would be now. BTW His Numbers aren't even as good as last year, except he had 11 INT.. Even though he Started 13 games, I don't see how he should be an alternate.

Maybe i'm wrong, but this is my opinion.
Brady12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2005, 05:42 PM   #9
Suitanim
Banned
Supporter
 
Suitanim's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
Posts: 6,086
Gender: Male
Member Number: 591
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: ben a pro bowl alternate?

Ben's 23...his Pro Bowl's will come. Hopefully, unlike other QB's, his come along with some Super Bowl wins. I'm sure Dan Marino would trade all 8 of his Pro Bowl nominations for a single Lombardi Trophy...
Suitanim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2005, 05:43 PM   #10
Brady12
Team Captain
 
Brady12's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Saskatchewan
Posts: 877
Gender: Male
Member Number: 973
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: ben a pro bowl alternate?

Lol Suit, I'm sure anyone would trade in a pro bowl for a Lombardi Trophy.
Brady12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:00 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Shoutbox provided by vBShout v6.2.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.0.8 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Navbar with Avatar by Motorradforum
no new posts