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Old 02-02-2009, 02:54 PM   #1
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Default The fumble/incompletion...

Did the decision on what to call the fumble/incompletion at the end of the game really matter? Even if they overturn it and say incomplete pass, it hits a lineman. With that, it's an offensive penalty and consequently leads to a 10-second runoff of the clock, which ends the game... at least that's what I think.

Anyone else understand the rules to be something different than that?
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:56 PM   #2
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No matter what happened, someone would come up with something for a reason as to why the other team lost. Personally, I don't think it mattered. It was the correct call.
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:57 PM   #3
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Default Re: The fumble/incompletion...

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Did the decision on what to call the fumble/incompletion at the end of the game really matter? Even if they overturn it and say incomplete pass, it hits a lineman. With that, it's an offensive penalty and consequently leads to a 10-second runoff of the clock, which ends the game... at least that's what I think.

Anyone else understand the rules to be something different than that?
Hadn't thought about that. However, there was a 15 yard penalty on that play against us, which I think negates the run off. SO the Cards could have (if it was inc and not a fumble) had the ball 15 yards closer to our endzone for one last heave for a hall mary jump ball with Larry Fitz and Boulden going up for it.
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:57 PM   #4
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Default Re: The fumble/incompletion...

NFL Stated that it was, in fact, reviewed. However, since it was upstairs, no one really mentioned it.

How do people not notice that it took a while for the next play to begin?

Just trying to find the link for it, was on school comp when I saw it.
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:59 PM   #5
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I believe the penalty was on us. Which would have moved them closer to the endzone. But it was a fumble.

The tuck rule is the grayest area of the NFL playbook. It really is hard to determine when the QB is truly throwing, or acting like he is so he can get the incomplete pass.
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Its my understanding that it wasn't the tuck rule that this applied to, its that a Steeler hand was pulling out the ball before Warner's arm started moving forward.
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Default Re: The fumble/incompletion...

warner essentially batted the ball forward because he lost complete control of it as soon as woodley hit the ball. since woodley knocked it loose before warner's arm went forward, it was a fumble.

people keep bitching about a review, but nobody is actually willing to admit the call on the field was correct.. people just like stirring up controversy and whining about the officiating. if it would have been overturned those same people would have been saying the call on the field was right and it shouldnt have been overturned. there are people out there that have bizarre agendas with nfl refs.
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Its my understanding that it wasn't the tuck rule that this applied to, its that a Steeler hand was pulling out the ball before Warner's arm started moving forward.
yeah , it was clearly a fumble because the qb didn't have control when his arm motion begun going forward, you gotta have control.....

i think the seahaws sb was pretty corrupt, but that game last night was called extremely cleanly

it was a damn fine reffed game


(i'm not a steelers fan, just being unbiased)

if the refs would have been favoring pitt, they wouldn't have called the safety or allowed zona to take the lead, or set up pitt in the hole at 1st and 20 on the final drive
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The Brady rule is bullshit. I said this in another thread, but... You could run back 50 yards and as long as you flip your arm forward when you get hit it is an incomplete pass. It should have to either a) cross the line of scrimmage, or b) be within arms reach of an receiver. Both of them should have been fumbles.
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****Update: NFL VP of Officiating Mike Pereira commented on the play to NBC:****

"We confirmed it was a fumble. The replay assistant in the replay booth saw it was clearly a fumble. The ball got knocked loose and was rolling in his hand before it started forward. He has to have total control."
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/28971640/

Looks like they did review it upstairs but decided it wasnt close enough to have the field judge take a look.

Officially a non-issue
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