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Old 02-07-2009, 12:30 PM   #1
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Player is well defended in the endzone, goes up to catch the ball high. Defender's hand disrupts the ball a little bit. Player bobbles the ball around a little bit on the way down, feet hit the ground and he twists down, continuing to fall. Player doesn't get his hands under the ball and as he falls down face and chest down, the ball touches the ground under the player.

Is that a TD or an incomplete pass?
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Old 02-07-2009, 12:56 PM   #2
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Player is well defended in the endzone, goes up to catch the ball high. Defender's hand disrupts the ball a little bit. Player bobbles the ball around a little bit on the way down, feet hit the ground and he twists down, continuing to fall. Player doesn't get his hands under the ball and as he falls down face and chest down, the ball touches the ground under the player.

Is that a TD or an incomplete pass?
sounds like something that happened recently...
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I'll go with incomplete pass, Morgan
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Old 02-07-2009, 01:11 PM   #4
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Old 02-07-2009, 01:27 PM   #5
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That's sorta what I was thinking on Fitzgerald's first TD catch. Looked to me like it should have been 4th down. It is what it is....
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Player is well defended in the endzone, goes up to catch the ball high. Defender's hand disrupts the ball a little bit. Player bobbles the ball around a little bit on the way down, feet hit the ground and he twists down, continuing to fall. Player doesn't get his hands under the ball and as he falls down face and chest down, the ball touches the ground under the player.

Is that a TD or an incomplete pass?
That is what the Referees call "Entrapment". It is an incomplete pass, and that is EXACTLY what happened on Fitzgerald's catch. I was flipping out when they didn't even bother to review it!
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yeah thats an incomplete pass... he never had "control" of the ball
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it's always nice to have ammo when they're throwing those "that wasn't roughing the passer" lobs... I agree, it wasn't roughing the passer. But I think bad calls that give your team points are worse than a few yards. Just saying.
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I saw the contact with the ground as incidental. It appeared to me that he had sufficient control before he landed.
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I saw the contact with the ground as incidental. It appeared to me that he had sufficient control before he landed.
If that is sufficient control then what the hell was the call on Santonio's catch and reach for the endzone in the AFCCG? Seems to me if you catch the ball run a yard and reach the ball out for the line that constitutes more control then what Fitz did.
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