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Old 02-10-2009, 11:00 AM   #1
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Steelers fans, Pats are still team of the decade
06:36 PM EST on Sunday, February 8, 2009


Monday morning quarterbacking following the first Sunday in six months without football . . .

Yes, I know the Pro Bowl was played yesterday. And, no, it does not count as football.

They have every reason to be proud in Pittsburgh. The Steelers are, after all, Super Bowl champions for the second time in four years.

There are residents who have begun to refer to the Steel City as ďSixburg,Ē because of the Steelersí sextet of Super Bowl wins, moving them past the Cowboys and 49ers as all-time NFL leaders.

But they also are being pretentious in Pittsburgh, where people are talking about the Steelers as the Team of the Decade.

Those people have short memories and apparently canít count very well
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The Patriots of New England have won three Super Bowls in this decade and came within seconds of winning a fourth. Twice, the Patriots advanced to the Super Bowl by upsetting the favored Steelers in Pittsburgh. In 2001, the Steelers had given up the fewest points in the AFC. The Patriots won, 24-17, as Drew Bledsoe came off the bench when Tom Brady was injured late in the second quarter and quickly threw a touchdown pass. In 2004, the Steelers had given up the fewest points in the NFL. The Patriots put up 41 and won by two touchdowns, then went on to win their second straight Super Bowl, their third in four years.

For those of you counting in Pittsburgh, thatís three in this decade, to the Steelersí two. The Patriots have been to four Super Bowls in this decade, twice as many as the Steelers. The year the Pats lost the Super Bowl, they went undefeated during the regular season -- only the second team in modern NFL history to accomplish that feat.

In addition, the Patriots nearly went to a fifth Super Bowl, almost upsetting the high-scoring Colts in Indianapolis in the 2006 AFC championship game.

So thatís five AFC championship game appearances, four AFC titles, and three Super Bowl wins in nine years for New England. Pittsburgh has four AFC championship game appearances, two AFC titles, and two Super Bowl wins.

Now, if the Steelers can repeat in 2009, which would be their third title in five years, there at least would be a meaningful discussion as to whether they deserved to be Team of the Decade.

Until then, itís OK to be proud in Pittsburgh, but not pretentious. Anyone who thinks the Steelers, rather than the Patriots, are the Team of the Decade is delirious.



The franchising of Matt Cassel is a win-win situation for the Patriots and the young QB. Whether anybody else becomes a winner as a result is somewhat more suspect.

Cassel, who led New England to an 11-5 record after Tom Brady was lost for the season in the first quarter of the first game, will receive a massive bump in salary, from $520,000 in 2008 to $14.65 million in 2009. Thatís slightly more than the $14.6 million Bradyís on the books for next season. As a franchise player, Cassel had to be paid the average of the top five salaries at his position.

Clearly, the Patriots donít want to tie up $29.25 million of the $123 million they have available under the salary cap in two quarterbacks. Having a capable backup is a necessity to remain in playoff contention, as the Patriots proved this past season, but itís not economically feasible to pay starterís money to the backup Ė especially the kind of money paid the best quarterbacks in the league.

While Cassel is being paid like one of the NFLís top QBs, the question remains if he really is one. The Patriots are hoping several teams in need of a quality quarterback believe he is.

The ideal scenario for New England is that a bidding war develops for Casselís services, with at least a couple of clubs offering the Pats an enticing array of draft choices, while at the same time offering Cassel a long-term contract he deems acceptable.

The situation is dire in Detroit, where the Lions are coming off a humiliating, 0-16 season. While Cassel wouldnít be worth the first overall pick in the draft, the Lions might very well be willing to part with their second choice in Round One, No. 20 overall, which they have courtesy of the Cowboys.

The Pats likely would want more than that, however, and so the question in Detroit is whether Cassel has more potential than the likes of Southern Calís Mark Sanchez and Georgiaís Matthew Stafford.

Kansas City, where former Pats personnel guru Scott Pioli now runs the entire football operation, has the third overall pick, but itís hard to see the Chiefs, even with Tyler Thigpen at QB, parting with that for Cassel. Whether another deal can be worked out Ė if, indeed, Pioli thinks that much of Cassel, remains to be seen.

Itís not just bad teams who could be interested. Cassel could prove to be the difference maker in the NFC North, where the Vikings (Tarvaris Jackson) and Bears (Kyle Orton) both could use an upgrade at QB as they battle for the top spot in the division. The Bears have the 18th pick in the first round, Minnesota, the 22nd, just ahead of the Patriots.

San Francisco (Shaun Hill and Alex Smith) has the 10th pick. Tampa Bay has a new coach in Raheem Morris and a new GM in Mark Dominik. The Bucs, who have the 19th pick in the first round, may want a new QB, too, rather than old-timers Jeff Garcia and Brian Griese. The Jets also are in need of a quarterback, but it seems highly unlikely Cassel would end up in New York. And what is Vince Youngís situation in Tennessee? If the Titans are worried about his future, they might consider Cassel as a QB whoíd keep them in the playoff picture.

Although Cassel exceeded expectations, and clearly progressed as the season went along, the question remains how good he can be with another team.

In New England, he benefited from superior coaching and preparation, as well as familiarity with a highly productive system. He was operating behind an offensive line that, in 2007, had three players in the Pro Bowl. He was throwing to Randy Moss, Wes Welker, and Kevin Faulk Ė as good a group of receivers as there is east of Arizona.

How well Cassel performs for a new staff, in a new system, behind an O-line that may not afford him the same sort of protection he received in New England, while throwing to less-capable receivers, all makes it a gamble for a team to part with several high draft picks and many millions of dollars to obtain his services.

But can they afford not to?

The Patriots will be hoping the price turns out to be right, lest they find themselves paying big bucks for two starters when only one can play.
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Old 02-10-2009, 11:02 AM   #2
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Default Re: Steelers fans, Pats are still team of the decade

In the comment section at the bottom of the article...you will see "Mr.Biggs"

thats me.

And here was my response:

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What the writer and "most" Patriot Fans fail to understand is that, outside of New England, there is a general consensus that the Patriots have an asterick beside all of their wins. The only thing "pretentious" is those who choose to dress up the pig in a dress...and ignore the scandal clad years in their own organization.
Sorry...but a dynasty is never followed by a *
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Old 02-10-2009, 11:09 AM   #3
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I don't think the Steelers are the team of the Decade.

I believe they are the best team of the last 40 years however.

6 > 3 every single time.
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No not the decade, but whole NFL existance yes. 6 honest championships compared to 3 cheated, asterik wins. Ill take Pittsburgh anyday.
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Coming from by far the most conceited and pretentious fanbase in the league.
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Coming from by far the most conceited and pretentious fanbase in the league.
Actually, getting punched in the face last year and losing the SB after an 18-0 start has humbled many of those guys.

I mean...talk about Eating Humble Pie...getting your lunch money stolen by Eli Manning will pretty much make any person shut up and keep it closed.
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Default Re: Steelers fans, Pats are still team of the decade

1) Our 2 honest SB wins trumps three wins with an asterick...(...and the Patriots havn't won a title since they had their cameras taken from them..)

2) We still have the 2009 season...and could very well be telling this writer to kiss our big hairy hineys, this time next year!!!
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Actually, getting punched in the face last year and losing the SB after an 18-0 start has humbled many of those guys.
Coulda fooled me - from the "comments" section of that article:

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Let's see now; the Steelers win SB two years ago, but afterwards the national press pick the Patriots to win the SB the following year. OK, flash forward to this year: ditto. It seems that it's not just the NE fans that recognize and appreciate a superior product, but smart and creditable sources across the nation do too. What's the matter with the Steelers that they can't be picked to repeat any year? I'll put my money on the Patriots to win any year just based on coaching, talent and smart football; not to on-field thugery which is the Steeler's main claim to fame.
Someone needs to tell this assclown it's 2009, not 2004 and that it isn't our safety getting pegged as the dirtiest player in the league by other players year after year after year. And also that our HC isn't a cheating piece of shit.
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Thuggery...awww...he's just complaining that we

HIT TOO HARD!
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Take it, Take that HIT Right across your sorry arse mouth you Pansy!

Yeah, we will BEAT YOU into Submission. You WILL Tap Out and You will Bow Down and recognize that you got your mother effing arse BEATEN to a PULP this season by the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS!
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