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Old 02-27-2009, 01:43 PM   #41
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I live in California.... Do I REALLY want to buy and register a hand gun???
I live in CA and own a pair of guns ... I've got to say what I have really noticed the most is that in this state, if you tell someone you're a gun owner, pretty much everyone will look at you like you have two dicks growing out of your forehead.

Californians have been so conditioned by political correctness, and by fearmongering in the press and by politicians, that they literally do not believe that anyone other than a street thug or a police officer could possibly want to own a gun. They fundamentally don't understand that shooting can be an actual hobby that you can have fun doing.

Everyone's initial reaction is always, "Oh my god! Are you sure? I wouldn't want a gun in MY house! That's so dangerous!" It's as if they automatically think that you sit around at home pointing loaded guns at your friends all day, or you'll be playing catch with your kids and suddenly decide to start tossing around the gun instead of a football.

Pretty much the only people here who "get" guns are people who live in farm country or who moved here from other states. Probably 90% of them couldn't tell you why "semiautomatic" is different from "assault weapon." For that matter, they don't even understand that "semiautomatic" basically just means a regular gun. When people don't know anything about a subject except that they are afraid, and they try to get involved in regulating it, that's when stupid things happen. California is living proof of that.
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Old 02-27-2009, 09:30 PM   #42
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:47 PM   #43
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You make some decent points, and I agree with you for the most part.

I am not for the legalization of most drugs (except marijuana, there are more benefits to this being legal than being illegal), but I am for decriminalization of other illicit drugs. I think it is a waste of the justice systems time and taxpayers money to just toss drug users (the non-violent ones at least) into jails and prisons with murderers, rapists and the like. I feel like if someones only crime is a drug addiction then the focus should be more on rehabilitation, not mixing them into a society of violent criminals, where more often than not, they come out worse than when they entered.

There are many peoples lives that are affected by drug use, but you could use the same argument for alcohol use as well, yet this is legal. Only when a person is endangering others while intoxicated is it considered a crime. I feel very strongly that marijuana should be treated in the same way.

As far as guns go, the same principle basically applies. As long as you go through the proper steps to obtain a gun, use it within lawful means, everything is fine and dandy. Commit a crime with it, your screwed and face consequences.
I disagree with you, but you make very logical and valid points here.
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When people don't know anything about a subject except that they are afraid, and they try to get involved in regulating it, that's when stupid things happen. California is living proof of that.
You and I disagree quite a bit on this board.

However, here, you have just summed up the ENTIRE PROBLEM with the California government in virtually EVERY AREA it touches.

If the truth wasn't so sad, I'd give you a bunch of smilies.
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I'm guessing a Gun Ban if for "the Greater Good" Right?

Keep the citizens unarmed for their own safety and what not.
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I'm guessing a Gun Ban if for "the Greater Good" Right?

Keep the citizens unarmed for their own safety and what not.
Nope...Its so Guns don't go over the border in mexico. Were losing our rights because of another country.

Next they'll ban gun clubs and shooting ranges because Pakistan has terrorist training camps.

Oh' wait they already have them here in the U.S., 35 of them, and the gov wont lift a finger about it.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,494424,00.html
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So is there good money in buying Legal Guns at Gun shows and Pawn Shops and Sports stores and then transporting them across the border and giving them to Drug Gangs?

Just curious.
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So is there good money in buying Legal Guns at Gun shows and Pawn Shops and Sports stores and then transporting them across the border and giving them to Drug Gangs?

Just curious.
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Define "assault weapon".

Democrats rely on the ignorance of the people to not know the difference between a fully automatic assault rifle and an "assault weapon" (a made-up term meaning "the gun looks mean").

You beat me to it! The Dems and a dictionary's definitions are very different.

I own an M-4, exactly like the one I carry in the field.....almost. It DOES NOT have the Burst or Auto option on the selector switch. It is semi-auto only. But this would/will fall under the dems definition simply because it is black and looks MEAN. I use it for recreational use (I love firing on a range), for professional means (to keep my skills up during off-duty periods) and for (mainly) home defense. Imagine an intruder's reaction were he to bust into my home only to see a real weapon leveled on him instead of some 22 revolver which would pretty much succeed in only pissing him off.

I promise you......force your way into my home.......you will be dealt with, with no hope of being able to blame it on a poor upbringing or the absence of a father figure.

You are an adult, you made an adult decision......you will be treated as one on MY terms......not yours.
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You talking to me?

I doubt you'd live long enough to collect.
I was just throwing it out there LOL being kind of sarcastic.

I mean really, how many of these Drug Cartel weapons are really being bought Legally by US Citizens, then shipped over the boarder into the hands of thugs and killers? I doubt many if any.

Chances are, these weapons are really Chinese Knock offs of American guns, or stolen Military Grade surplus that are being sold from begining to end, off the market in back alley, back lot, back room deals. I highly doubt an "ban" on Assault weapons will do anything other than keep assualt weapons out of the hands of average, law abiding citizens.
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