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Old 08-09-2013, 03:03 PM   #341
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Sanctions at any school punish the future players. Thats just the way it is.

The program should have been shut down. It is a Cult mentality. Nothing stands in the way of PSU football in Central Pa.
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Old 08-12-2013, 09:43 PM   #342
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Sanctions at any school punish the future players. Thats just the way it is.

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At least ban them for 1 year, IMO.
Unfortunately, steeltheone is right. There's no way around NCAA sanctions. When star players and coaches can jump ship (declare eligible for the draft, or take another coaching gig) and avoid the sanctions about the only way they can be "fair" to the current players is grant them a free transfer with no loss of playing time, which is what the NCAA did.

As for the second part, it's exactly right. All of my family is blue and white. There is nothing bigger than Penn State Football. Shit, even I capitalized the word football there. I said it to my grandmother, the PSU following needed a good grab of the shoulders and a heavy shake to say 'It's only football for crying out loud. These kids will never get back what they lost to that horrible man.'
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Old 08-13-2013, 07:51 AM   #343
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Unfortunately, steeltheone is right. There's no way around NCAA sanctions. When star players and coaches can jump ship (declare eligible for the draft, or take another coaching gig) and avoid the sanctions about the only way they can be "fair" to the current players is grant them a free transfer with no loss of playing time, which is what the NCAA did.

As for the second part, it's exactly right. All of my family is blue and white. There is nothing bigger than Penn State Football. Shit, even I capitalized the word football there. I said it to my grandmother, the PSU following needed a good grab of the shoulders and a heavy shake to say 'It's only football for crying out loud. These kids will never get back what they lost to that horrible man.'
Yeah I agree, it's really embarrassing for the school and the football program. It will probably take some time for everything to "calm down". I don't like Penn State, but they are a proud program and it is a shame for a school of their caliber, tradition, and history to have to be caught up in such scandal. I respect the program, Joe Paterno, the tradition. I think the moral of the story is "honesty is the best policy". Too bad Paterno & Co. failed to follow it.
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Penn State and Virginia Tech agree to home-and-home series in 2022 and 2023.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...2022-23-series

Barring a postseason meeting, this will mark the first time the schools have met on the gridiron.
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Penn State and Virginia Tech agree to home-and-home series in 2022 and 2023.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...2022-23-series

Barring a postseason meeting, this will mark the first time the schools have met on the gridiron.
Should be a good series.
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The thing that made the whole situation so difficult about sanctions is that they didn't do anything wrong in the traditional way teams get in trouble. They didn't pay any kids. There were no fake grades. Nobody got an Escalade. There wasn't a single infraction in any way with anything involving the football program or cheating. You knew they had to be punished somehow for what happened, but arriving at which sanctions to hit them with, the duration, and putting the infractions into context had to be difficult. It was a despicable criminal child molester at the heart of this hot mess. What happened afterward isn't completely clear, but we do know that children continued to be abused because enough wasn't done at the school to make sure Sandusky was put behind bars. This guy did what he is accused of, and as far as I'm concerned, should be tied up in a room and let the people he abused and their families do whatever they want to him until he's dead.

It's unfortunate that current Penn State players and coaches have to be punished for things they had absolutely nothing to do with, but something had to be done. I'm a Penn State fan, but I accept the punishment given to them by the NCAA. It may have been a little excessive, but they just need to comply completely. The punishment given to them is worse than the death penalty. It affects them longer and limits scholarships significantly worse. They could appeal to try to reduce sanctions, and they will.

It was an unprecedented penalty that was given out, for an unprecedented situation involving a football program. The best that could come out of this, is that something like this never happens again at any institution of higher learning.
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Harshly punishing those involved sends a strong enough message imo.

Otherwise they arguably went overboard with the collateral damage.
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Good read in this past Friday's Wall Street Journal on how O'Brien and the players held the team together after the NCAA gave everyone the chance to transfer immediately

How Penn State Football Survived
Egged On by the NCAA, Rival Teams Tried Raiding the 2012 Nittany Lions


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Harshly punishing those involved sends a strong enough message imo.

Otherwise they arguably went overboard with the collateral damage.
IMO the NCAA sucks. They barely punish Ohio State for the rules their athletes broke. Then they turn around and bring the steel curtain down on Penn State. Where is their fine line? It's unfair, if you ask me. A similar example is the punishment given out by the NFL on "Spygate" versus "Bountygate". IMO the Saints were hit harder than the Patriots. And Goodell did not draw a line as to the harshness of penalties.
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IMO the NCAA sucks. They barely punish Ohio State for the rules their athletes broke. Then they turn around and bring the steel curtain down on Penn State. Where is their fine line? It's unfair, if you ask me. A similar example is the punishment given out by the NFL on "Spygate" versus "Bountygate". IMO the Saints were hit harder than the Patriots. And Goodell did not draw a line as to the harshness of penalties.
Hiding child rape vs free tattoos. Fine line?
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