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Old 04-01-2009, 01:53 PM   #21
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That was a bloggers response posted underneath! THAT is your defense? Why not post something from Tim Lumber on the subject while you're at it.

You're falling apart before our eyes here...the ultimate Obama apologist.
a blogger who happens to know more on the subject than you. after all youre just a messageboard poster who quoted a commentary piece by....







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A BLOGGER!

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V.B. Price (b1940), is a poet, human rights and environmental columnist, editor, journalist, architectural critic and teacher. He is a member of the faculty at the University of New Mexico's University Honors Program where he teaches seminars on Greek and Roman literature in translation, urban issues, the U.S. Constitution, and world poetry. He is the series editor of the Mary Burritt Christensen Poetry Series at the University of New Mexico Press. He is also an adjunct associate professor at UNM's School of Architecture and Planning.
you may wanna go play with timma now or check out some of vbprices poetry for scientific evidence in our next debate... cause you clearly fell to pieces on this one.
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Old 04-01-2009, 02:13 PM   #22
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I'm sorry but you gotta love a political debate that throws in the local moron from baltimore!

Now that my friends, takes the cake!
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I'm sorry but you gotta love a political debate that throws in the local moron from baltimore!
He's not from Baltimore!!!!!!!! He's from Frederick!!!!!!!! Where the only punctuation that exists is the exclamation mark!!!!!!!! So consider yourself SKOOLED!!!!!!!!
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i heard hes gonna erect a giant statue of his brass balls right next to the reflecting pool in washington.
He doesn't have balls. They are in a jar on the mantel in the Presidential bedroom suite and the only time he can get 'em back is when he begs Michelle to give 'em back.
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Spend money on research/development of fusion reactors, and the worries about where to bury nuclear waste disappears.

Nah, let's argue some more about where to bury deadly waste from our current fission reactors...as if it's going to make a damn bit of difference where we bury it.
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Not even six months into this administration. . . and democrats are standing opposed. .. . and others are frothing at the mouth trying to defend him.

Dang, it took 6 years and numerous pushes by the press to get to that point with Bush.
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a blogger who happens to know more on the subject than you. after all youre just a messageboard poster who quoted a commentary piece by....







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A BLOGGER!

you may wanna go play with timma now or check out some of vbprices poetry for scientific evidence in our next debate... cause you clearly fell to pieces on this one.
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Old 04-01-2009, 07:46 PM   #28
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Spend money on research/development of fusion reactors, and the worries about where to bury nuclear waste disappears.

Nah, let's argue some more about where to bury deadly waste from our current fission reactors...as if it's going to make a damn bit of difference where we bury it.
i agree w/you 100% on the first sentence. except you said 2 bad words- spend + money. you know what that research and development would be called? PORK. most likely alot of that money would go to sandia labs and los alamos. NM has been one of the major players in nuclear research since the manhattan project. who is the gov. of NM? yep. thats right... bill richardson, the former DOE secretary under clinton, and obamas initial appointee to secretary of commerce. the right would have a FIT.

now i gotta challenge your second sentence. you DONT bury it under or near a major metropolitan area. you dont flush it into the allegheny. you dont bury it in the rain forest, or in the polar ice caps, and you most certainly bury it inside a volcano. so why in the hell would burying it along an active fault line make sense?

now i certainly dont want that shit anywhere near me. ive driven by the tractor trailors hauling that crap to carlsbad. ive seen our poor narrow highways and driven in plenty of the windy mountain roads they travel on. we have 60 mph winds today and last week and will get up to 80 mph gusts til may-june. spring and wind is our only bad weather here. its s wreck waiting to happen. and thats just the dangers of getting it here. understandably new mexicans arent welcoming even more dangerous waste. (hell some dont even welcome great projects such as spaceport america).

BUT salt beds have long been regarded as the best solution for a screwed up problem

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2009/...ap6221813.html

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Roger Nelson, chief scientist for the DOE's Carlsbad field office, said if Yucca Mountain is to be replaced, the nation should consider disposal in salt.

Nelson said that doesn't mean WIPP.

"WIPP has a mission. It's been designed and legislated and authorized," he said. "If Congress or any other agency wanted to change WIPP, it would jeopardize this mission that is working so well."

There are other places - the formation where WIPP lies covers thousands of square miles that are virtually contiguous into central Kansas, "so there's a lot of real estate for a salt repository in the U.S.," he said.
From the beginning of the nuclear age in the 1940s, scientists studied what to do with radioactive waste that remains dangerous for tens of thousands of years. Early ideas included sending it on a rock to the sun or burying it in deep sea subduction zones.

Eventually, they turned to salt beds.

"The safest way to isolate something that you don't want for a very, very long time is find an ancient salt formation and put your waste in the middle," Nelson said. "Salt is still there for a very good reason, it has not been eroded away. It's indicator of hydrological stability. The same hydrological barriers that protect the salt will protect the waste."

Still, some critics have argued for years the WIPP site is the wrong place.

Concerns over water leaching into the salt were raised in numerous hearings on the repository over the years; the DOE eventually dismissed them. But Citizens for Alternatives to Radioactive Dumping scheduled a news conference in Albuquerque on WIPP's 10th anniversary Thursday to release a hydrological report that argues the conceptual groundwater model used to assess the WIPP site was fatally flawed.
now its understandable that a DOE scientist is gonna have a completely different agenda than a scientist hired by CARD.
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Old 04-01-2009, 08:16 PM   #29
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hey revs, not only is your initial source a peudo-specialist in nuclear science, he also appears to be master of politics with a CLEAR CUT anti-nuclear agenda.

(im almost embarrassed for you having cited him to defend your stance.)

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Both John McCain and Darren White are trying their darnedest to sound like Democrats. They’re scampering away from the black hole of the Bush legacy as fast as their PR Machines can carry them.

But the selection of presumptive Vice President Sarah Palin, the 18-month governor of Alaska, leaves no doubt that Republicans are Republicans, no matter how much they suck up to the more marginal and muddled Democrats.

If Sarah Palin isn’t the clincher that causes every wavering voter to pull the Democratic lever this November, no one ever will be. She’s such a modern Republican, so holier than thou art, so tied to big oil, such a creature of PR spin, she fits right in with conservative commentators and spin meisters like George Will who can make up seem down and right look left at the scratch of a pen.

In a recent Will commentary about the Democrats’ “naive economics,” Will said it’s naive to focus on alternative energy, discounting nuclear power as a major factor in America’s new energy economy. But that’s exactly what PNM’s recent energy planners have done in New Mexico, forecasting the company will rely more and more on alternative energy to supplement coal and natural gas and deciding not pursue mega-expensive, glacially slow nuclear power start ups. Energy is all about incentives and subsidies. But more of that later.

Sarah Palin to the contrary, I expect we’ll see more Republicans trying to sound like Democrats over the next months, echoing Darren White at his victory speech on primary night, when the Republican candidate for the First Congressional District in New Mexico tore into President Bush and the last four years of economic disaster like a DNC TV spot.

But this is all par for the course in the madcap, surreal elections of 2008. The only person around who seems to espouse the straight Republican line is a person hardly anyone outside of Alaska has heard of.

Sarah Palin admits to not knowing much about Iraq, or all that much about what a vice president might actually do. But the heartbeat-away-from-the-hot-seat hockey mom knows she doesn’t believe in global warming, knows she doesn’t believe in women’s reproductive rights, knows she thinks the Endangered Species Act is for sissies, knows she’s a Rush Limbaugh-like advocate of Big Bad Oil and is not a supporter of home-grown renewable energy independence.

Palin is what John McCain and Darren White are really like. They are Republicans. As hard as they try not to seem like Sarah Palin, they all belong to modern Republicanism, the party of Karl Rove and Pat Robertson, and no amount of spin can make it any different.

Should McCain’s health falter and Palin become the president, everything that every environmentalist, every alternative energy advocate, every women’s rights activist, every religious person of ecumenical leanings, and every Bill of Rights champion could go right down the drain. And they all know it. Perhaps Palin has galvanized the Republican base, but she’s galvanized everyone else as well, spunky and charming though she may be.

It would be like having Sean Hannity for president.

Like all Bush apologists, from Pete Domenici to Darren White to Steve Pearce, George Will, Sarah Palin, and John McCain deny change even when it’s snapping at their heels. They look at the defunct past and see a glorious future, and propose to do exactly the same things that caused the ruination that discredits their point of view.

Will and many other Republicans, along with some rightish Democrats, believe in the l950s view of atoms of peace, harnessing nuclear energy for industrial purposes to assuage the guilt of the nuclear industrial complex and science-for-hires who, at one time, helped to put some 70,000 nuclear warheads around the world, from Russia to North Dakota.

Will thinks it’s naive to suppose that America can wean itself from foreign oil without using nuclear energy in large quantities. He thinks that alternative energy sources, and cars that run on something other than petroleum, are also naive without nuclear power. He discounts the dangers of uranium mining, the arms proliferation implications in reprocessing spent fuel rods, and even the sound strategy of storing spent fuel on site in hardened containers, rather than waiting for decades for a subterranean repository to become politically viable, and then trucking the stuff all over the country to get its immense tonnage underground.

He doesn’t want to tell us that Big Nuke and Big Oil are the nation’s most heavily subsidized energy industries. The nuclear industry, alone, is protected from collapse by the Price-Anderson Nuclear Industries Indemnity Act, a no-fault insurance program. Any claim against a nuclear power company over $10 billion is covered by the taxpayer, and anything less is covered by an industry supported indemnity fund, backed by the federal government. It’s been estimated that a Chernobyl-like accident in the United States would cost hundreds of billions of dollars.

Unlike Will, scientists advising the British government on nuclear power in 2005 concluded that not only weren’t nuclear reactors a solution to global warming, but that nuclear power is “a limited, inflexible, expensive, and potentially dangerous energy source which creates unique problems.” They argued for alternative energy subsidies rather than a new generation of reactors, according to SourceWatch.

But Republicans in Congress have been foot dragging on extending tax credits for renewable energy companies past the Dec. 31 deadline. The loss of those tax credits, according to The Associated Press, could cause operations like Schott Solar in Albuquerque to lose perhaps 1,500 jobs and a half a billion dollars in investments.

Watching the tax credit debate will give us all a clue about what might happen in a Palin presidency in which all the incentives go to dottering Big Nuke and Big Oil with nothing left over for the future.
wow. kinda all over the place there. i'd love to hear his take on the roswell aliens.

now i appreciate him standing up for our state in terms of WIPP. they dont call NM the "land of enchantmnet" for nothing and its kind of a slap in the face that the govt wants to use it to test/drop the first a-bomb and use it as a toxic waste dump, etc. (no offense to you but i would suggest ohio or baltimore)
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I haven't read through all the posts so forgive me if this has been addressed already.

The DoD is going to allow once fired brass to be sold just as it has been forever now. Gun owners and several senators jumped on them in a hurry and had the new policy changed.

It only took a few days to get it changed.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...ss-ban-lifted/
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