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Old 04-12-2009, 09:53 PM   #21
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However, Tony is making it out like Gruden is worth anything as a coach. He's not. He took Dungy's team to the SB and beat his old team. After that, it went down hill fast.
how many playoff games have the browns won since gruden has been a head coach?

how many sb's have the browns/jets been to in the sb era?

gruden got another mans team a sb win, and his people without his guidance were their opponent.

in a sense, he got TWO teams to the superbowl.

good luck with mankunt.
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:34 PM   #22
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Wait a second... how's this any different than a Florio posting?
Anything that makes the Browns look dumb is OK in my book.

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Old 04-12-2009, 11:58 PM   #23
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The Clowns are worthless, end of story.
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We could use a good back up QB.
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Old 04-13-2009, 06:55 AM   #25
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We could use a good back up QB.
The implications of that are almost too great for me to bear.
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No disrespect to Ben but he isn't the quaterback we all thought he as gonna be i mean after he got the big check a flip switched and plus i personally thought they should have traded him for brady quinn last season or this season....
Ben for Brady Quinn straight up. Time to make it happen, Rooneys - don't be cheap.
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Old 04-13-2009, 08:32 AM   #27
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Ben for Brady Quinn straight up. Time to make it happen, Rooneys - don't be cheap.
He hasn't been back to receive his spanking like a man either, to no one's surprise. Talk about making yourself look like TIMMAY! Lumber...
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Old 04-13-2009, 09:15 AM   #28
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OK, I see this another way.

It's a dreaded word in Cleveland, but this is definitely "Rebuilding" strategy.

And it's not a bad idea.

It's not like they have all that much left offensively. They are down to almost nothing at WR and their RB is old. The line has eroded a bit. The defense has some young prospects to build from. They can draft a QB in early Rd's to groom (ostensibly from draft picks they receive in trade for Quinn and/or Edwards).

They'll start from scratch and build through the draft. I know another team that has had some success doing this...
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Last I heard - the Giants had a deal in the works for Edwards - the Browns wanted a #1/#3 and Mathias Kiwinuka in return.

Dunno what happened afterwards - but that's ALOT to give up for someone who has the bad case of dropsies.
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Old 04-13-2009, 10:22 AM   #30
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wooah..

i could see possibly a 1st.. b/c edwards is still a good wr... and a 3rd would be pushing it.. but for kiwinuka as well... thats like saying it's going to snow in florida
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