Obama Promise to stop Wiretapping? Not so much...

revefsreleets · 04-17-2009, 11:59 AM

More of the same here. Obama promised to end Bush's "Illegal and immoral wiretapping".

Not only is he not ending it, and not only is he extending it, he's EXPANDING IT!

Bear in mind, you are reading this (probably for the first time) here, on a football website, and this news is over a week old.

Where is MSNBC? CBS? CNN? Where is the outrage by the popular press here? I mean, isn't the wiretapping what made Bush evil? Didn't Obama solemnly promise to eliminate it?

This just gets worse and worse...

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04...orse-than-bush

Yes, this IS a blog, but there are other links at the bottom of the story to Salon and The Atlantic. This story is very real. This is legit. Obama is caught here in a HUGE lie. I cannot WAIT to see the left try to spin this one...

***tony hipchest*** · 04-17-2009, 01:07 PM

a HUGE lie? i'll just laugh at the melodrama.

i dont think theres some major media cover up. i read it a few days ago on NY times or usa today.

do you have a clip of baracks solemn promise? did he like, put his hand on a bible (or koran) or something?

ho hum. obama changed his mind. you ever stop to think that bush was privy to information barack had no clue about when he was spouting off about wiretapping, and now that he gets the security briefings, he might now better understand the rhyme and reason behind some of the things he so was critical of?

anyways another typical day in washington.

headlines- politicians lie.

FWIW- wiretapping is about as important to me as the mating habits of the dung bettle.

but if it will make you feel better....

OUTRAGE!!!!

SteelersinCA · 04-17-2009, 01:13 PM

Wasn't this one of the things the Dems were beating on Bush and the Attorney General on?

I didn't like wiretapping when Bush did it and I don't like it if Obama continues it, but funny how the tables turn.

***tony hipchest*** · 04-17-2009, 01:19 PM

im pretty indifferent either way cause im pretty much on the fence with the issue and see the pros and cons of both sides. of course the democrats would beat on bush for items they dont agree with just like the republicans will beat on obama.

in this case he'll do something they do agree with and STILL beat on him.

SteelersinCA · 04-17-2009, 01:24 PM

My point is the hypocrisy of politicians is astounding and we keep electing them.

I don't want constitutional rights trampled at all by wiretapping. There are pros to all sorts of illegal activity, but I like the quote by Thomas Jefferson, "It is more dangerous that even a guilty person should be punished without the forms of law than that he should escape."

fansince'76 · 04-17-2009, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelersinCA

Wasn't this one of the things the Dems were beating on Bush and the Attorney General on?

Nonstop and endlessly.

Quote:

For one thing, under an Obama presidency, Americans will be able to leave behind the era of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and "wiretaps without warrants," he said. (He was referring to the lingering legal fallout over reports that the National Security Agency scooped up Americans' phone and Internet activities without court orders, ostensibly to monitor terrorist plots, in the years after the September 11 attacks.)

It's hardly a new stance for Obama, who has made similar statements in previous campaign speeches, but mention of the issue in a stump speech, alongside more frequently discussed topics like Iraq and education, may give some clue to his priorities.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9845595-7.html

But all of a sudden, I guess it's a good idea now. HOPE! CHANGE! BAAAAAA!

Vincent · 04-17-2009, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelersinCA

My point is the hypocrisy of politicians is astounding and we keep electing them.

I don't want constitutional rights trampled at all by wiretapping. There are pros to all sorts of illegal activity, but I like the quote by Thomas Jefferson, "It is more dangerous that even a guilty person should be punished without the forms of law than that he should escape."

This is why the citizens need to bear arms.

They wouldn't be doing this @#$% if we all had nukes.

SteelersinCA · 04-17-2009, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincent

This is why the citizens need to bear arms.

They wouldn't be doing this @#$% if we all had nukes.

Nice!!!

***MACH1*** · 04-17-2009, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony hipchest

a HUGE lie? i'll just laugh at the melodrama.

i dont think theres some major media cover up. i read it a few days ago on NY times or usa today.
OUTRAGE!!!!

Come on man, you need to use a more creditable news source like msnbc.

PisnNapalm · 04-17-2009, 07:38 PM

Why am I not surprised..... remember people... buy ammo.

04-17-2009, 11:59 AM	#1
revefsreleets Living Legend Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Akron, Ohio Home of LeBron James Posts: 15,403 Gender: Male Member Number: 5353 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Obama Promise to stop Wiretapping? Not so much... More of the same here. Obama promised to end Bush's "Illegal and immoral wiretapping". Not only is he not ending it, and not only is he extending it, he's EXPANDING IT! Bear in mind, you are reading this (probably for the first time) here, on a football website, and this news is over a week old. Where is MSNBC? CBS? CNN? Where is the outrage by the popular press here? I mean, isn't the wiretapping what made Bush evil? Didn't Obama solemnly promise to eliminate it? This just gets worse and worse... http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04...orse-than-bush Yes, this IS a blog, but there are other links at the bottom of the story to Salon and The Atlantic. This story is very real. This is legit. Obama is caught here in a HUGE lie. I cannot WAIT to see the left try to spin this one... __________________ *Official Steelersfever Arians Nuthugger*

04-17-2009, 01:07 PM	#2
*tony hipchest* IRONMAN a.k.a. Tony Stark Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Give me back my game... Posts: 34,340 Member Number: 658 Thanks: 184 Thanked 230 Times in 164 Posts	Re: Obama Promise to stop Wiretapping? Not so much... a HUGE lie? i'll just laugh at the melodrama. i dont think theres some major media cover up. i read it a few days ago on NY times or usa today. do you have a clip of baracks solemn promise? did he like, put his hand on a bible (or koran) or something? ho hum. obama changed his mind. you ever stop to think that bush was privy to information barack had no clue about when he was spouting off about wiretapping, and now that he gets the security briefings, he might now better understand the rhyme and reason behind some of the things he so was critical of? anyways another typical day in washington. headlines- politicians lie. FWIW- wiretapping is about as important to me as the mating habits of the dung bettle. but if it will make you feel better.... OUTRAGE!!!! __________________

04-17-2009, 01:13 PM	#3
SteelersinCA Team Owner Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,536 Gender: Male Member Number: 9302 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Obama Promise to stop Wiretapping? Not so much... Wasn't this one of the things the Dems were beating on Bush and the Attorney General on? I didn't like wiretapping when Bush did it and I don't like it if Obama continues it, but funny how the tables turn.

04-17-2009, 01:19 PM	#4
*tony hipchest* IRONMAN a.k.a. Tony Stark Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Give me back my game... Posts: 34,340 Member Number: 658 Thanks: 184 Thanked 230 Times in 164 Posts	Re: Obama Promise to stop Wiretapping? Not so much... im pretty indifferent either way cause im pretty much on the fence with the issue and see the pros and cons of both sides. of course the democrats would beat on bush for items they dont agree with just like the republicans will beat on obama. in this case he'll do something they do agree with and STILL beat on him. __________________

04-17-2009, 01:24 PM	#5
SteelersinCA Team Owner Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,536 Gender: Male Member Number: 9302 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Obama Promise to stop Wiretapping? Not so much... My point is the hypocrisy of politicians is astounding and we keep electing them. I don't want constitutional rights trampled at all by wiretapping. There are pros to all sorts of illegal activity, but I like the quote by Thomas Jefferson, "It is more dangerous that even a guilty person should be punished without the forms of law than that he should escape."

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