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Old 05-05-2009, 03:24 PM   #11
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The Iraqi's want us out by June 30 now?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that it just ain't happenin'...
They want us out of their cities (as a base of operation.) They aren't saying get out of the country...or that we can't patrol the cities...we just can't be camped there.
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because the last dozen units I've sent overseas were all issued brand new equipment before leaving. Brand new helmets, flak vests, camelbaks even. It's all very nice stuff.
its about freaking time....
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For that matter, Tony, the last 3 units I've sent all were issued brand new (straight out of the box) M4s to replace the M-16.
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For that matter, Tony, the last 3 units I've sent all were issued brand new (straight out of the box) M4s to replace the M-16.
about freaking time.

serious question.... time frame? were the last 3 units you sent over the course of the past 3 months, or past 3 years?
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Let me guess...Obama is the guy responsible for properly equipping the troops?
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about freaking time.

serious question.... time frame? were the last 3 units you sent over the course of the past 3 months, or past 3 years?
I sent 2 units out in the last month, one two months ago and I've sent a total of 12 in the last 2 years.
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Let me guess...Obama is the guy responsible for properly equipping the troops?
this much we know...

bush is the one responsible for leaving them improperly equipped. it practically took public outrage on the part of the generals to finally get bush's attention on the matter.

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interresting. m-16's are dinosaurs. th m-4's are freaking awesome. ive shot one with all the bells and whistles used for training purposes (not real bullets- but real kick).
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this much we know...

bush is the one responsible for leaving them improperly equipped. it practically took public outrage on the part of the generals to finally get bush's attention on the matter.
The mission was larger than anticipated. The contractors made promises they couldn't keep in regards to production...and the Services themselves did not have a good distribution plan for said equipment. I have personally traveled to some of the warehouses (two and a half years ago) that were not properly manned/funded to handle the mass of equipment they had on stock and coming into stock.

With the approval of my command, I was able to have a lot of the equipment distributed to a warehouse under our control...so that we could distribute it to our troops in time of need.

Now, we've got control of a massive stock that we use to ensure the Soldier's going overseas are properly equipped. Not only that, we have a nice size stock of training equipment as well.

The warehouse in Columbus has one the largest sets of combative mats on hand ready for use...and we are beginning to host Combatives training at our location so that we can mass qualify our Soldiers in basic hand to hand combat skills.

Because he was the CIC, he'll have to shoulder some of the blame...but the services themselves did not do him any favors.
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Bush saw "Blackhawk Down". He vowed never to send American boys into harms way ill-equipped again.

Iraq got out of hand on his watch, true, but the guy didn't PURPOSELY send US kids over to get killed for lack of equipment. The situation changed and we had to play catch-up.

To suggest so crosses a line...

And it's equally absurd to credit Obama, a fervent ANTI Iraq war guy, with properly equipping the troops. The wheels of this government don't move that fast. If XFL is sending kids out with better equipment 12 weeks ago, that credit goes to the previous administration.
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