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Old 05-13-2009, 11:45 AM   #11
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You right wing fascist!!!! How dare you suggest we should get rid of welfare, don't you know how many people welfare has helped to get back on their feet, move on from the disadvantages they were born with and to make a better life for themselves........in a new house that they can now afford thanks to popping out 3 more kids and getting a bigger welfare check?
Sadly, Obama undid one of Clinton's greatest achievements when he rolled back welfare reform. THAT'S a talking point you'll NEVER see a liberal tackle head on.
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Old 05-13-2009, 11:52 AM   #12
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Wait, are you saying that every penny of the $9 trillion suddenly vanished since January 20?
it appears so.

it is mind numbing the right wing propoganda some people believe. couple that with the supposed $9 trillion deficit, and obama is blamed for pissing away $18,000,000,000,000 in 100 days (which is humanly impossible).

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Old 05-13-2009, 12:30 PM   #13
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it appears so.

it is mind numbing the right wing propoganda some people believe. couple that with the supposed $9 trillion deficit, and obama is blamed for pissing away $18,000,000,000,000 in 100 days (which is humanly impossible).

That number is, conservatively (because his original number crunching was WAY too optimistic), 7.1 trillion deficit by 2019. It will probably be much higher than that, though.

And, yes, it took him about 110 days to do that much damage.
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Old 05-13-2009, 12:33 PM   #14
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I’m not sure where anyone would get the point of this thread as primarily just bashing Obama except that he appears VERY pro government, taxes and spending.

This is more about fiscal irresponsibility and lack of accountability by the government imo.

As has been pointed out, the government created and overseas the federal reserve, Fannie Mae, Freddie mac, social security, medicare, etc. and all of these are arguably disasters.

What this comes down to is conservative versus liberal principles imo.

As a conservative, I believe liberty, freedom, free markets, capitalism and competition are usually the best solutions to most problems.

I feel liberals tend to believe that forced government monopolies with little or no competition is somehow better than the principles on which our great country was founded, though history generally doesn’t support that.....as anyone with a strong history background would likely agree.
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I thought the federal reserve was a government entity with private components.
It is, hence my quotes.
But don't be completely fooled, the federal reserve is not always acting in our best interest was my main point.

It's run by the government, instead of the banks about as much is Congress is run by the people and not by the corporations, lobbyists, and special interests.

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Obama certainly belives that the governmnet can and will be able to fix our myriad problems.

Now we get to sit back and watch that not work out at all.

But things won't ever get as bad as predicted. The GOP will pull themselves together, sharpen their message, and take back a lot of seats in the mid-terms, and then take back the White House in '12.

We can undo a lot of the damage that's being done now...
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Who do you think will be their voice, I don't see a promising soul on the horizon.
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That number is, conservatively (because his original number crunching was WAY too optimistic), 7.1 trillion deficit by 2019. It will probably be much higher than that, though.

And, yes, it took him about 110 days to do that much damage.
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But things won't ever get as bad as predicted. The GOP will pull themselves together, sharpen their message, and take back a lot of seats in the mid-terms, and then take back the White House in '12.

We can undo a lot of the damage that's being done now...
so which is it, o ye who speaks out of both sides of ones mouth?

will obama be spending money until 2019 or will the republicans come to the rescue and undo all of his "bad policies" and have us shitting rainbows of skittles with monetary influx?

hypocrites cant have it both ways.



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will obama be spending money until 2019 or will the republicans come to the rescue and undo all of his "bad policies" and have us shitting rainbows of skittles with monetary influx?
Isn't that obaaamas job, with a big glass of kool aid?

Still waiting for my share of the wealth(handouts) he promised.
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Isn't that obaaamas job, with a big glass of kool aid?

Still waiting for my share of the wealth(handouts) he promised.
LOL.

When the government forcibly takes what belongs to one group, gives it to another, and lines their own pockets along the way, it is nothing more than legalized plunder.......

When individuals do this they are criminals....when the government promises to do more of it.....people like Tony vote for them.
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