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Old 05-23-2009, 10:46 AM   #41
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Did you read my above post?
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Why would it be necessary to keep dogs that need to be caged in a setting with children? This incident would seem to be inevitable.
I asked the obvious question.

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No dog should be trusted around a baby.

To call James and his baby's mother irresponsible dog owners is just a blanket, ignorant statement.
Huh?!
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:57 AM   #42
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"Pit bulls and Rottweilers are accordingly dogs who not only must be handled with special precautions, but also must be regulated with special requirements appropriate to the risk they may pose to the public and other animals, if they are to be kept at all."
Dobermans are candidates for this distinction as well. My wife's aunt always had dogs like these. The two that come to mind are a pair called Lugar and Teg. Nobody in the family could come near them. They'd shred you. They cowered around the aunt though. Just freekin scary.

Friends had a pair of pits named Sadie and Gus. Same deal.
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:02 AM   #43
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Whats the point of owning a pet if you need to or choose to lock it up in a cage most of the time?
We have no idea of the living arrangements. Maybe his son and girlfriend don't even live there full time. The point is, the baby was protected until the cage opened. A tragic accident happened and thank God the child was not more seriously injured. Since I saw pictures of him and his dogs several years ago, he obviously had the dogs before he had a son. My grandchildren don't live with me. I choose to protect them while they are here.

We don't know what happens in someone elses home. We need to stop judging these guys based on a few facts in a news story. My ex and I had talked about finding a new home for our dog just 2 hours before it bit my son. It happens that fast. My son was in my lap when the dog attacked.

People making blanket assumptions about them being bad parents or irresponsible owners is just ignorance. (read the responses to the story on the PFT site) I was neither and it happened in a spilt second. Just be grateful the child will recover.

Professional athletes are no different from you or me. No amount of money takes away the heartbreak of looking down at your broken or sick child and knowing that you could have prevented it by being extra vigilant.
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Dobermans are candidates for this distinction as well.
They're included in the list.

Did you read the link?

Statistics don't lie.


In recent years, the dogs responsible for the bulk of the homicides are pit bulls and Rottweilers:

"Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998. It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities." (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. JAVMA 2000;217:836-840.)

Interesting...

Analysis

Of the breeds most often involved in incidents of sufficient severity
to be listed, pit bull terriers are noteworthy for attacking adults almost
as frequently as children. This is a very rare pattern
: children are
normally at greatest risk from dogbite because they play with dogs more
often, have less experience in reading dog behavior, are more likely to
engage in activity that alarms or stimulates a dog, and are less able to
defend themselves when a dog becomes aggressive.

Pit bulls seem to differ
behaviorally from other dogs in having far less inhibition about attacking
people who are larger than they are. They are also notorious for attacking
seemingly without warning, a tendency exacerbated by the custom of docking
pit bulls' tails so that warning signals are not easily recognized. Thus
the adult victim of a pit bull attack may have had little or no opportunity
to read the warning signals that would avert an attack from any other dog.

Rottweilers by contrast show a fairly normal child/adult attack
ratio. They seem to show up disproportionately often in the mauling,
killing, and maiming statistics simply because they are both quite popular
and very powerful, capable of doing a great deal of damage in cases where
bites by other breeds might be relatively harmless.

Wolf hybrids, German shepherds, and huskies are at the extreme
opposite end of the scale, almost never inflicting severe injury on
adults--
but it would be a huge mistake to assume that these seemingly
similar patterns reflect similar behavior. They do not. In fact, German
shepherds and German shepherd mixes in which the German shepherd line
predominates together amount to 16% of the entire U.S. and Canadian dog
population, according to the data we have on breed-specific licensing, or
just about nine million total dogs.
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:19 AM   #45
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Shouldn't this be in "Locker Room"?
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They're included in the list. Did you read the link?
Ah yes, they are mentioned. Hadn't read to the bottom.
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Huh??!!
Myabe you have to have first hand experiance with this to get it.

Read the responses (as I pointed out above) on the PFT site. It seems everybody judges these guys and how they live based on the half facts we get in news articles.

Pardon me if I get emotional, but this is an emotional subject for me. I LIVE WITH THE GUILT OF BEING TOO TRUSTING AN ANIMAL. My son was lucky a spaniels mouth is small and it only required a few stitches. I refuse to judge him with so little facts. The fact that he had them caged is enough to tell me he was protecting his son. We don't know if they were caged all the time. We don't know ANYTHING. Things are not always as they appear in print. Hopefully, he's just get rid of all of them.
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Myabe you have to have first hand experiance with this to get it.

Read the responses (as I pointed out above) on the PFT site. It seems everybody judges these guys and how they live based on the half facts we get in news articles.

Pardon me if I get emotional, but this is an emotional subject for me. I LIVE WITH THE GUILT OF BEING TOO TRUSTING AN ANIMAL. My son was lucky a spaniels mouth is small and it only required a few stitches. I refuse to judge him with so little facts. The fact that he had them caged is enough to tell me he was protecting his son. We don't know if they were caged all the time. We don't know ANYTHING. Things are not always as they appear in print. Hopefully, he's just get rid of all of them.
No, I get it. And I'm not judging anybody. Just voiced my puzzlement.

I was also puzzled by what I thought were two contradictions. But I withdraw those in light of the trauma you have suffered. My apologies.
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How long before PETA accuses Harrison of dog abuse?
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Aren't labs still the number one dog for biting people? Pretty sure they are. Pitbulls just cause more damage when they do bite.
http://www.petsdo.com/blog/top-ten-10-most-dangerous-dog-breeds

Don't see labs on the list. The breeds that BITES the most is the little ankle biter rat dogs.
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A study, published this week in the journal Applied Animal Behaviour Science, with researchers questioning 6000 dog owners had some surprising conclusions.
The dog breed most likely to bite was not the Pit Bull, Rottweiler, or German Shepherd, but …wait for it…the Dachshund. And second was the Chihuahua, followed by the Jack Russell Terrier.

Known as sausage or weiner dogs, Doxies were originally bred to hunt badgers in their holes. The research, conducted at the University of Pennsylvania, found that one in five Dachshunds have bitten or tried to bite strangers or have attacked other dogs and "one in twelve have snapped at their owners."
http://thepoodleanddogblog.typepad.c...og-owners.html

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Dino 6 had it right. Pits don't bite anymore then any other dog but they do cause more damage when they bite. Also any time a pit bites someone its makes national head lines so everyone hears about it.


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Dog Breed Contributed to Deaths Percentage of All Deaths
Pit bull - 52 - 59%
Rottweiler - 12 - 14%
American bulldog - 4 - 5%
Husky - 4 - 5%
http://www.dogsbite.org/bite-fatalities-2008.htm
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