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Old 06-17-2009, 06:30 PM   #1
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Default Pittsburgh leads Cleveland, 11-0, in titles since 1964? Whoop-dee-doo!

Pittsburgh leads Cleveland, 11-0, in titles since 1964? Whoop-dee-doo!
Posted by mpeticca June 16, 2009 13:33PM
http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports...lp_pittsb.html

Typical of those who can't accept an occasional taste of provincial success with grace and dignity, Ron Cook of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette gloats that his tired city has won 11 major sports championships in the last 45 years, to none for Cleveland.
Without Cleveland-area linebackers such as Jack Lambert (Sports Illustrated cover photo) and James Harrison, the Steelers probably would have zero Super Bowl titles instead of six (just joking).

He writes:

The celebration yesterday in honor of the Penguins was our second in 132 days, dating to the February party for the Steelers after Super Bowl XLIII. It was the third in 40-plus months, counting the parade for the Steelers after Super Bowl XL in February 2006.

Cleveland hasn't had three in 40 years.

Actually, that's factually incorrect.

Cleveland hasn't had even one in 45 years for any of its major professional sports teams.

Cook's boasts - prompted by the Penguins' NHL Stanley Cup victory - may have some numerical veracity, but they lack historical perspective and are, really, only half (if that) the story.

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Take the Steelers...please.

Pittsburgh was the worst franchise in the NFL until it hired Cleveland-born Chuck Noll as its coach. He led the Steelers to four of their first six Super Bowl championships. Keying Noll's indomitable defense was Hall of Famer Jack Lambert, a graduate of Crestwood High in Portage County and Kent State, and considered by some as the best linebacker ever.

We gave you Bill and Chuck.

Former Browns linebacker and assistant coach Bill Cowher led Pittsburgh to its fifth Super Bowl win. Cowher, despite his accomplishments, wasn't good enough to be head coach for the Browns. Don't believe it? Former Browns owner Art Modell chose Bill Belichick over Cowher as Cleveland's new coach in 1991. Proving that the Browns' decision-makers have always known what's best, Belichick has coached three Super Bowl championship teams.

Who's the reigning NFL defensive Player of the Year, and a linebacker on Pittsburgh's last two world champion teams? Akron's James Harrison, another former Kent State star.

What would the Steelers have been without such guys? And, all of their championships have been won since NFL games became more a dance than a brawl. After all, it was Lambert himself who famously said, "Quarterbacks should wear dresses," after he was reprimanded by the league for hitting a quarterback too hard. The Browns won all four of their titles when the game wasn't supervised like a croquet match.

We think Ron has really Cooked the books on this one. Cleveland has it all over Pittsburgh culturally, anyway. Do you know that Pittsburgh is so lacking in creative thinking that its football team was named the Pirates from 1933-40 (when it went 24-62-5, by the way)?

Pirates just been awful

The Pittsburgh Pirates' baseball team even makes the former, failed and forlorn Pittsburgh Pirates' football team look good.

Pittsburgh baseball has lost 318 games more than it has won since 1992. Recent Indians' teams look like the 1927 Yankees compared to the Buccos. Yes, the Pirates won the World Series in 1971 and 1979, but if they were any good lately, they would have made it to the 1995 or 1997 World Series to play the Indians, to see who really is best.

The Pirates' inherited their ineptitude from the Pittsburgh Alleghenys, who went 23-113 in the 1890 National League pennant chase, finishing 66 1/2 games behind the first-place Brooklyn Bridegrooms and 23 games in the dust of the seventh-place Cleveland Spiders. The Alleghenys were outscored by 738 runs for the season, which even a Steel City citizen could tell you is more than one run per game.

Yes, in 1899, the Cleveland Spiders went 20-134, but we dare Ron Cook to find one person who can honestly say those Spiders were worse than the '90 Alleghenys.

Take Cavs over any Pitt team

Joshua Gunter, The Plain Dealer You realy think the Pittsburgh Ironmen could have stopped LeBron James?

What a great NBA history Pittsburgh has. Its lone NBA team, the 1946-47 Pittsburgh Ironmen (another creative name), played in the league during just its first season, when it was called the Basketball Association of America.

Typical of the city they represented, the Ironmen went 15-45, finishing 15 games behind the legendary Cleveland Rebels. Pittsburgh record books show that Colby Gunther is the team's all-time field goal percentage leader, hitting 33.6 percent of his shots. Some Pittsburgh fans could tell you Colby missed more than half his shots. A lot more, in fact.

Penguins who?

Let's say this about hockey. Nobody had even heard of the Pittsburgh Penguins when the Cleveland Barons were winning nine Calder Cup championships between 1939 and 1964. That's when the NHL had six teams, and the Barons were commonly called the "seventh best hockey team in the world." We say they were the best. Not their fault they weren't allowed to play the Canadiens, Red Wings, etc.

Ohio, 7-1
Pennsylvania's best

Just so Pittsburgh backers know, their city is in Pennsylvania and Cleveland is in Ohio. Despite an 89-year slump, Ohio has had seven men born in the state elected president. Pennsylvania has had one, and if you want to know how the experts rank him, look here.
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Old 06-17-2009, 06:50 PM   #2
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Default Re: Pittsburgh leads Cleveland, 11-0, in titles since 1964? Whoop-dee-doo!

Sour grapes from a jackass Cleveland journalist.

This 'tard fails to mention that Cowher is from Crafton, PA.

He fails to mention that James Harrison was a UDFA, cut by the Steelers and the Ravens....and the Browns never batted an eye at him until after he slammed the Browns fan that ran onto the field a couple years ago.

Jack Lambert was a second round pick. In the 1974 NFL draft the Browns traded their first round pick to the Chargers, and then took a guard in the second round.

Also in that draft, there were five Hall of Fame players selected...and the Steelers selected four (Swann, Lambert, Webster, Stallworth).

So the Steelers knew talent when they saw it, and the Browns didn't. What a surprise there.

As for the baseball argument, yeah the Pirates suck right now. But they have won 5 World Series titles overall to the Indians' two.

Not to mention that this blowhard is digging stuff up back from the 1800's...over two centuries ago, to make his argument.

And then his hockey argument is even weaker, bringing up a defunct Cleveland team that played in the NHL's MINOR LEAGUE.

Oh, and basketball. Yeah, I am a Cavs fan...but for most of their history they have been a joke. They had a nice run in the 1990's and have had an excellent run with LeBron James. But I will be the first to admit that if LBJ leaves (God forbid), the Cavs will revert right back to the NBA laughingstock they were before he arrived.
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Default Re: Pittsburgh leads Cleveland, 11-0, in titles since 1964? Whoop-dee-doo!

"Former Browns owner Art Modell chose Bill Belichick over Cowher as Cleveland's new coach in 1991. Proving that the Browns' decision-makers have always known what's best, Belichick has coached three Super Bowl championship teams.
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Lets see here, Art Modell packed his team up and MOVED out of "the mistake by the lake". So that WAS a good decision. It got him a SB ring.

As for the passing over Cowher for Bellicheat........... Well in the eyes of true fans and NOT the slobbering spoon fed media , Cowher won his title legitimately while Bellicheat had to CHEAT to get his AND he didn't do squat in this league until he started CHEATING!

Bill Cowher = "the Chin"

Bill Bellicheck = "the CHEAT"

Steelers = " 6 Time World Champs"

Browns = " Steelers whipping boy"

This guy is a complete tool!

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Old 06-17-2009, 07:22 PM   #4
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Default Re: Pittsburgh leads Cleveland, 11-0, in titles since 1964? Whoop-dee-doo!

Awww....cute Browns fans got their panties in a bunch because they have gone an entire generation without knowing the glory of being a Champion....
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Default Re: Pittsburgh leads Cleveland, 11-0, in titles since 1964? Whoop-dee-doo!

I sure do love the Steelers
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Old 06-17-2009, 07:45 PM   #6
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Default Re: Pittsburgh leads Cleveland, 11-0, in titles since 1964? Whoop-dee-doo!

It just amazes me how deep we are into their heads.
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Default Re: Pittsburgh leads Cleveland, 11-0, in titles since 1964? Whoop-dee-doo!

..so slim q cumber really got a job with a rival paper?

me thinks clevelandites will welcome him with open arms and give him a key (wire coat hanger) to the shitty.
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Default Re: Pittsburgh leads Cleveland, 11-0, in titles since 1964? Whoop-dee-doo!

Somehow, someday, somewhere, the Browns will win a game against the Steelers.

On that day, the Browns will crow that all their woes are over and they are now going to be the champions... Of course, that also means we are going to have to listen to them go ON and ON and ON about how those '50's teams were the best ever.

What a shame that their claim to greatness is over 60 years ago, with no connecting legacy.

Meanwhile, the Steelers can claim greatness today, dominance in the AFC in the 90's, and greatness in the 70's.
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Boo-hoo.
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Default Re: Pittsburgh leads Cleveland, 11-0, in titles since 1964? Whoop-dee-doo!

He didn't mention that Belichik won his titles when he got to New England? I don't remember him winning them with the Browns.
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