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Old 08-08-2009, 01:13 PM   #11
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Yes, Free Speech is dead...Heil Obama!

This is absolute garbage, the worst most vile kind of ignorant propaganda...

I'm not sure what the purpose of this article is other than for this guy to scream really long and loud how much he REALLY hates Republicans...because they pay their taxes!
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Old 08-08-2009, 01:19 PM   #12
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Activists weigh how to push message while abandoning adversarial tacks
By: Lori Aratani
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January 16, 2009 WASHINGTON Code Pink, Arrest Bush, the Coalition for Peace and other liberal activist groups plan to hoist banners and wave signs on Inauguration Day. It might look a lot like a protest rally. But don't call it that.

"It's not a protest; it's a celebratory event," said Jose Rodriguez, a longtime activist who is coordinating an Arrest Bush demonstration in front of the FBI building Tuesday.

After almost a decade of being on the opposite side of presidential decisions on the Iraq war, Supreme Court appointments and a host of other issues, progressive activists have a new problem: how to make demands without appearing adversarial.

"We don't want to be seen as protesting against (Barack Obama) so much as pushing him to fulfill his promises," said Medea Benjamin, founder of Code Pink. "It's totally, totally different."

"In years past, we organized and organized and didn't see any direct result because we were up against an administration that wasn't listening," Rodriguez said. "Now, we know there's an opportunity for change to happen."



Throw in ACORN and you have a whole litany of fine upstanding respectable groups of citizens banded together for a cause who wouldn't dream of being disruptive to the political process by showing their a**es in actual political hearings. Remind me again what town hall meetings are ? Oh yes, a place where citizens are encouraged to show up, meet their congressmen, and have their voice heard.
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Old 08-08-2009, 01:26 PM   #13
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Default Re: The me first, forget everyone else crowd:

Since this is virtually the same thread as the Republican Autoerotic Asphyxiation thread...I guess I'll answer the same way



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The "manufactured hate" angle is pathetic and losing steam as more and more dems are stepping forward, pissed off that their party is arrogantly calling them republican plants.

Among insured Americans, 82 percent rate their health coverage positively. Among insured people who've experienced a serious or chronic illness or injury in their family in the last year, an enormous 91 percent are satisfied with their care, and 86 percent are satisfied with their coverage.

As more people are educating themselves about this "reform", they are beginning to see the problems with government controlled medicaid and medicare and getting more concerned about the "fine print" in what a government controlled healtcare system would limit.

Most Americans are dissatisfied with the costs of the system overall, and apprehensive about their future expenses, but satisfied with their own current costs.

Based on those numbers, why is the left in denial about those who were clearly in Obama's corner in November showing their displeasure in regards to this topic???

This type of arrogance and flat out dismissal of their own constituants, is going to blow up in their faces.

As one registered DEMOCRAT said...."Why are you trying to push healthcare down our throats in three weeks, when the president took six months to pick out a dog for his kids?"

To ignore those type of legitimate concerns smells of knee-jerk party politics and arrogance
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Old 08-08-2009, 01:32 PM   #14
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Yep...ya really gotta watch out for those out of control middle class, middle aged white folks. They'll reach in the mini-van, pull out a soccer ball and launch it at ya.
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Old 08-08-2009, 01:34 PM   #15
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Default Re: The me first, forget everyone else crowd:

Well said, LLT. But really, I'm just freaking FED UP with this notion that people who are questioning Obama's plan should just shut up and accept it. It's freaking bullshyt.
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Old 08-08-2009, 02:14 PM   #16
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Well said, LLT. But really, I'm just freaking FED UP with this notion that people who are questioning Obama's plan should just shut up and accept it. It's freaking bullshyt.
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Since this is virtually the same thread as the Republican Autoerotic Asphyxiation thread...I guess I'll answer the same way





It's more of the SOS, different thread hate on Republicans garbage. I'm going to merge the 2 threads.
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I'm a Democrat. I have been since the very first day I could claim a political party. I believe in fair play, equal opportunity, the right to Unionize, the right of gays to marry, and many other Democratic principles.

I also believe in the right to bear arms, disagree with abortion on demand, and plant my flag on fiscal responsibility. Right now, my party thinks me a traitor because I'm not willing to come out and support health care reform because I feel like it's been shoved down my throat much like cap and trade. My party has told me that there's no room for Democrats like me anymore because fiscal responsibility takes back seat to the President's agenda.

I have always detested the far left wing of my party. Guys like Tony, The Patriot, and SteelTalons. They're the ones who serve as loyal foot soldiers of the agenda of the time. I fully support the Blue Dogs and their insistence that we have the best possible plan for reform as we move forward.
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I'm a Democrat. I have been since the very first day I could claim a political party. I believe in fair play, equal opportunity, the right to Unionize, the right of gays to marry, and many other Democratic principles.

I also believe in the right to bear arms, disagree with abortion on demand, and plant my flag on fiscal responsibility. Right now, my party thinks me a traitor because I'm not willing to come out and support health care reform because I feel like it's been shoved down my throat much like cap and trade. My party has told me that there's no room for Democrats like me anymore because fiscal responsibility takes back seat to the President's agenda.

I have always detested the far left wing of my party. Guys like Tony, The Patriot, and SteelTalons. They're the ones who serve as loyal foot soldiers of the agenda of the time. I fully support the Blue Dogs and their insistence that we have the best possible plan for reform as we move forward.
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I appreciate your response. This is EXACTLY what I am having a HUGE problem with. I work with two people who voted for Obama...still support him and the Democratic party but DO NOT want government regulated healthcare reform.

Yet the media is VERY eager to print the party line about "Manufactured Hate" without investigating the claim. I am supposed to talk to people like you and the two I work with and simply "believe" that you dont exist.

I read where one Democratic Senator stating that those who opposed Healthcare reform were "plants", offering the fact that the area in which his townhall meeting was held was "predominatly democratic" as proof.

HELLO!!!! I have two problems with that.

1) Putting a townhall meeting in such an area stinks of trying to get "manufactured" results. and if not for the overwhelming public dissaproval of this bill...the senator would have got the results that he was striving for...overwhelming support by loading the meeting with those predisposed to agree with him. Too bad it backfired..right?

2) It IGNORES the possibilty that the voters in his area might have a mind of their own in regards to this legislation. As much as the right might want to call the left "kool-aid drinkers"..What we are seeing at these town hall meetings is a collection of middle-left voters standing up against the far-left. It is the epitiome of arrogance to poo-poo the voices of those who put these politicians in office by discrediting them completely as "plants".

KUDOS to the Dems at these meetings!!!!
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Talk about disappointment,

I thought I was going to read something about unions. You know, those people who make 40-70 bucks an hour for a 20-30 dollar an hour job and drive the cost of their products out of the reach of the average American family.

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