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Old 08-11-2009, 06:47 PM   #41
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Cleveland Browns quarterback Brett Ratliff gets reps with first team

by Tony Grossi/Plain Dealer Reporter

BEREA, Ohio ... Observations from the morning practice on Day 11 of training camp ...

• The first-team offense finally scored a touchdown in the two-minute drill. That's not even the big news. The quarterback leading the drive was Brett Ratliff, who is considered not to be in competition with Derek Anderson and Brady Quinn.
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:20 AM   #43
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Browns | Quarterback battle remains too close to call

Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:56:41 -0700

John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the Cleveland Browns quarterback battle remains wide open, according to head coach Eric Mangini. Many figure QB Brady Quinn will beat out QB Derek Anderson for the starting job, but it is currently too close to call.

Anderson said his radio receiver in his helmet wasn't working Sunday, Aug. 9, and said Quinn schooled the defenders on hand signals he was sending into Anderson during the workout. That, in turn, made it harder for Anderson to work a drive filled with short passes.
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Please, for the love of all that is holy and good, will you Browns fans take the time to CAREFULLY read what I wrote?

Ben would have sat in '04 behind Holcomb and Garcia. Ben would have sat in '04. Sat. '04. Got it?

There is no way to spin this to clean up the Browns error. It cracks me up to watch you guys diss your own team in order to win a stupid unwinnable argument.
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Anderson said his radio receiver in his helmet wasn't working Sunday, Aug. 9, and said Quinn schooled the defenders on hand signals he was sending into Anderson during the workout. That, in turn, made it harder for Anderson to work a drive filled with short passes.
Not surprising, considering who the HC is, and in turn, who his mentor was.
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It's amazing how Browns fans continue to rationalize taking the Soldja over Ben in 2004.

"He's overrated"
"He's a product of the system"
"We had people waiting in the wings"
"Ben's a jerk"
"We didn't need him"

The Steelers' original plan for Ben was to sit him for a year and groom him while Maddox played. Unfortunately, those plans were cut short in Baltimore. The rest is history.

No one is saying Ben would start right away for Cleveland, but at least they would have had a future at QB. Not a headcase TE who is now no longer with the team.
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I'm not rationalizing taking Ben over KW2. KW2 was a bigger mistake than taking Ben would have been. The Steelers had a complete team...the Browns did not.

We needed to trade down, draft some lineman to groom and build the team the right way. Taking Ben at #3 would have handicapped us (financially) even more so than taking KW2 did...because TE's dont' get paid like QBs. It would have effected everything..and in all likelihood, Ben would have just ended up getting hurt and being a first round bust. (Like KW2 is).
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It's horribly illogical...it's on par with the whole "We should trade Timmons NOW because he's going to be a stud and we won't be able to pay him in 4 years" argument.

There are only a few of these guys that comes down the line, maybe one every 5 years, and you absolutely grab them when you can.

And the argument about lineman is out the window. They addressed that the following year through FA, and they had some decent lineman already. Bear in mind by 2007 they had one of the best lines in football, so it wasn't like they weren't addressing it all along.
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In 2004, we should have addressed the line...not worried about skill positions that can't get/keep the ball.

We got the better line in 07 how? We drafted Joe T and signed away Eric S from Cincy.

You say we addressed the line in 05. Maybe you think better of Andruzzi/Coleman than the rest of the NFL does...because where are those guys now?

Trading down and acquiring depth/line would have been the smart thing to do.

Even now, QB is far from our only hole/glaring need. Having a 100M QB on this team would be ridiculously stupid right now.
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