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Old 08-23-2009, 01:41 PM   #51
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A law allowing a gun to be carried concealed, is 1 law. So is not allowing a concealed gun. Either way, it is 1 law. There isn't necessarily "more gun law" people. 1=1. Just my
I mean laws like bans on certain types of weapons, waiting period, registering weapons, criminal background checks.etc.

I'm not stating wether I personally am for or against any of those, just giving examples. I'm sure there's more examples I'm missing.
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Old 08-23-2009, 07:49 PM   #52
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So you telling me that we shouldn't be upset about a bill in committee? You wouldn't be upset if a bill re-instituting separate but equal was introduced and in committee? You wouldn't be upset if a bill demanding a poll-tax for voting was in committee?
Nope, not really. Maybe if it was my Senator tossing it out there, but if not, I wouldn't care. Thousands and thousands of bills are in committee, and die there.
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Old 08-23-2009, 08:24 PM   #53
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I'm asking those who support current or proposed regulation/gun control law in an effort to understand where they are coming from. I really am curious to hear their views on what laws they support or would like to see and how they think those laws will cut down on gun crime or keep guns outta bad guys hands.

Discuss.


write a freaking letter to the congressmen who wrote the bill and their constituents, then.

otherwise i think you are barking up the wrong tree. i think you suffer the same disease as revs. you both see EVERYBODY who doesnt agree with EVERYTHING you all believe as one in the same therefore you are way to willing to pigeonhole ANYBODY.

anyways, this is another (of many, many, many) panic threads that can be put to rest.
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Old 08-23-2009, 09:14 PM   #54
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i think what he is telling you is that not only should you guys be upset, but you guys should PANIC!!!!!!.

show america that the nutjobs will not be silenced! carry guns to every obama appearance! speak softly and carry a big stick! ( oh wait... that doesnt apply to this current sore losers crying club.)
You know Tony... your minimalizing of everything said which you disagree with is getting quite tiring.
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You know Tony... your minimalizing of everything said which you disagree with is getting quite tiring.
so what youre saying is that you disagree with the way in which i disagree with anyone who doesnt agree with what i agree with, in the same fashion they disagree with anything i agree with?



i still think this is a panic thread. i will wait for the things stated in the OP to come to pass before i go ballistic though.
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so what youre saying is that you disagree with the way in which i disagree with anyone who doesnt agree with what i agree with, in the same fashion they disagree with anything i agree with?



i still think this is a panic thread. i will wait for the things stated in the OP to come to pass before i go ballistic though.
Nope.. That pretty much any thread in the political forum you disagree with becomes a "panic thread"

Just once, I would like to see you actually and truly engage the topic instead of dismissing and twisting issues. You and Revs seem to have a dance going on.

The sad thing about it, is that the two of you, when you both actually choose to debate and discuss instead of doing stuff like this, can be a couple of the most informative posters for these kind of issues.
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but most threads that i disagree with in the political forum are infact "panic threads".

obama's wailing wall prayer.

obama's airplanes tail fin logo.

obama is muslim.

obama's lapel pin.

obama is communist.

obama wants your guns...

the list goes on and on.

i find this thread (like many others) to be quite meaningless and not worthy of actual discussion. its much to do about nothing (especially being that it was exposed as mostly rhetoric and propoganda).

on the flipside, i find the terrorism going on in juarez, mexico to be quite striking and topic worthy. not many find that discussion worthy either. just because nobody wants to discuss it or bow down to my beliefs, doesnt mean im gonna bitch about it.

if people can post "sky is falling" pictures in the football forum, i can most certainly post - PANIC!!!! in the political forum, right?


if not, please let me know. last i checked, disagreeing with revs isnt a sin on this board.

do you really want an honest discussion on the topic of this thread?

fine. do i believe that all guns should be confiscated or their sales be outlawed to all? answer is NO.

there. end of discussion.

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you forgot obama wasn't born an american, and he's giving money to palestine terrorist ....
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but most threads that i disagree with in the political forum are infact "panic threads".

obama's wailing wall prayer.

obama's airplanes tail fin logo.

obama is muslim.

obama's lapel pin.

obama is communist.

obama wants your guns...

the list goes on and on.

i find this thread (like many others) to be quite meaningless and not worthy of actual discussion. its much to do about nothing (especially being that it was exposed as mostly rhetoric and propoganda).

on the flipside, i find the terrorism going on in juarez, mexico to be quite striking and topic worthy. not many find that discussion worthy either. just because nobody wants to discuss it or bow down to my beliefs, doesnt mean im gonna bitch about it.

if people can post "sky is falling" pictures in the football forum, i can most certainly post - PANIC!!!! in the political forum, right?


if not, please let me know. last i checked, disagreeing with revs isnt a sin on this board.

do you really want an honest discussion on the topic of this thread?

fine. do i believe that all guns should be confiscated or their sales be outlawed to all? answer is NO.

there. end of discussion.

Interesting. If you don't think the thread is worth posting in... then why post? Many threads I just look over as well.

Funny thing.. I never said disagreeing with Rev is a sin... matter of fact, I said that you both do the same thing... and it is a shame because an honest discussion would benefit many others.

As far as you "honest discussion" well, that isn't what the thread was about, which makes me wonder if you even really read through the first post or just react after reading a couple words.

The thread is actually about a specific post bill sent to congress which is being argued is the first step of actual confiscation... The fact that the govt. will require a bunch of information from everyone that owns a gun, regardless of purchase.

Now, Snopes agrees with most of it, while showing that part of the original message was restricted to commercial gun sellers. Now, do you think that it is worth while to call or write a congressman or woman to express your disaproval for this bill? I think it is a worthy discussion, because someday, a bill like this will make it out of committee and to the floor. When that happens, it becomes harder to stop the bill, and more politicized. So why wait until then?

Now, how exactly is that a panic article? Seems to me, it has the facts pretty straight (except for one minor place) and brings up a good point.

May be a little less obama flagwaving and a little more reading of the actual original posts would help?

that or we can just keep posting Arians sucks in every other thread.
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otherwise i think you are barking up the wrong tree. i think you suffer the same disease as revs. you both see EVERYBODY who doesnt agree with EVERYTHING you all believe as one in the same therefore you are way to willing to pigeonhole ANYBODY.
This is about as valid as a pile of pig vomit. I'm sorry I've caught you being full of shit a bunch of times and have had the temerity to (gasp!) actually call you on it, but PLEASE for the love of Christ stop retaliating with personal attacks, especially groundless ones...

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Funny thing.. I never said disagreeing with Rev is a sin... matter of fact, I said that you both do the same thing... and it is a shame because an honest discussion would benefit many others.
I also take umbrage with this, preach...sure, I may be tad bombastic when I get a little fired up, but that's largely based on my frustration at people who argue angrily from a position of either ignorance or simplicity. I think the biggest "sin" on this board is we have a bunch of checkers players (not all, but a lot) trying to play chess, and I WILL "impeach the witness" when I see something like that happening...
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