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Old 08-25-2009, 09:29 PM   #21
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Yeah, I guess the war is over. But somebody needs to tell the terrorist's
well i guess once were completely bankrupt, which is the sentiment of the thread, then how will we finance a military at all ? its kinda like paying your cable bill instead of your electric bill....no electric...no tv...
besides the iraqi's WANT us to leave and have expressed so on many occassions..... you shouldn't force your company on people who don't want it...especially when you can't afford the visit anyway.
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Old 08-25-2009, 10:32 PM   #22
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well i guess once were completely bankrupt, which is the sentiment of the thread, then how will we finance a military at all ? its kinda like paying your cable bill instead of your electric bill....no electric...no tv...
besides the iraqi's WANT us to leave and have expressed so on many occassions..... you shouldn't force your company on people who don't want it...especially when you can't afford the visit anyway.
And spending trillions on pet projects is the way to go? Especially when you don't have trillions to spend.
I got it, just print some more paper up and call it good.

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you shouldn't force your company on people who don't want it...especially when you can't afford the visit anyway.
Pot meet kettle. Sounds kinda familiar with obaaama care doesn't it?
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Old 08-25-2009, 11:06 PM   #23
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And spending trillions on pet projects is the way to go? Especially when you don't have trillions to spend.
I got it, just print some more paper up and call it good.



Pot meet kettle. Sounds kinda familiar with obaaama care doesn't it?
pot meet kettle ? please show me where i ever said it was a good or bad idea ? we don't have hundreds of billions to spend anually on playing world police either, but its never stopped it from happening. we didn't have almost 800 million to spend on a palace like embassy in iraq, but that didn't stop it from being built... we don't have the money to maintain 1000 military bases around the world, but yet we have them....
you don't think the military has been running on that same government credit card ?
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Old 08-25-2009, 11:14 PM   #24
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well here's one bill we need to get from underneath....

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Congress provided about $188 billion for the global war on terror in the 2008, according to the Congressional Research Service

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4704018.shtml

You're talking TRILLIONS of dollars in debt being run up, and more proposed, and you wanna cut 188 BILLION - with a B - in the global war on terror ? That's like saying "the oceans levels are too high, let me get my mellon baller and start filling my bucket"

Funding the military and providing national defense is the federal governments job, and these ain't boy scouts armed with sling shots and BB guns we're talking about.

But the TRILLIONS of dollars in spending and proposed spending is healthcare, bailing out banks and car manufacturers, down payments on a car for your neighbor and entitlement programs that are so full of fraud and abuses. That's not the federal governments job. It says "promote the general welfare" not "BE the general welfare"
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Old 08-25-2009, 11:29 PM   #25
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[QUOTE=MasterOfPuppets;644933]pot meet kettle ? please show me where i ever said it was a good or bad idea ? we don't have hundreds of billions to spend anually on playing world police either, but its never stopped it from happening. we didn't have almost 800 million to spend on a palace like embassy in iraq, but that didn't stop it from being built... we don't have the money to maintain 1000 military bases around the world, but yet we have them....
you don't think the military has been running on that same government credit card ?
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MOP, THAT'S THE GOVERNMENTS JOB !!! I want to see my tax dollars going towards the strongest, best trained, best equiped military in the world - heads above the rest. If that means lots of r and d dollars for the newest state of the art weapons, planes, artillary, tanks.....SPEND IT. If that means helping to fund allies...SPEND IT. But DON'T spend more money on pet projects that were NEVER meant to be funded by the federal government using my tax dollars. Plus, it's not the military funding that is running up the debt by the trillions.
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You're talking TRILLIONS of dollars in debt being run up, and more proposed, and you wanna cut 188 BILLION - with a B - in the global war on terror ? That's like saying "the oceans levels are too high, let me get my mellon baller and start filling my bucket"

Funding the military and providing national defense is the federal governments job, and these ain't boy scouts armed with sling shots and BB guns we're talking about.

But the TRILLIONS of dollars in spending and proposed spending is healthcare, bailing out banks and car manufacturers, down payments on a car for your neighbor and entitlement programs that are so full of fraud and abuses. That's not the federal governments job. It says "promote the general welfare" not "BE the general welfare"
take that 188 billion and multiply it by 10...20....etc... the war on terror is going about as well as the war on drugs... for every drug dealer they take down a new one will fill the void... same with terrorist.
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take that 188 billion and multiply it by 10...20....etc... the war on terror is going about as well as the war on drugs... for every drug dealer they take down a new one will fill the void... same with terrorist.

he bobs...he weaves...ohhh myyy, the deflection executed perfectly
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he bobs...he weaves...ohhh myyy, the deflection executed perfectly
WHOOOOOSH!!!!!

just because the point made was above your head, doesnt make it a "deflection".

please... if youre gonna use the trendy buzz word around here, atleast come correct with it.
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Cmon, dont you guys know that this is just a right wing scare tactic...crazy coservative nutcases just panicking over nothing................right Tony
awww... someone else has got a hard-on too.

isnt that special?

cool site (although nothing new). the quick spinning money reels remind me of a bunch of slot machines in a casino.

i laugh at all the nutjobs who have just started "panicing" in the past 10 months. you know, those who have ignored the reality of our situation that this lingering debt.

it has been hanging over our heads for years, and years, and years, but now that obama is president people are crawling out of the wood works and are all of a sudden really into politics who think they have all the answers...

anyways, old story with a nice new presentation via this website. im suprised so many republicans seem so suprised in the growing national debt. where have you guys been?
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WHOOOOOSH!!!!!

just because the point made was above your head, doesnt make it a "deflection".

please... if youre gonna use the trendy buzz word around here, atleast come correct with it.
the funny part is i ask miss LITP 3 times about the palestine funding and all 3 times she responded but never answered the direct question and then has the nerve to accuse others... but then again my point was about hypocrites..... ...
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