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Old 08-25-2009, 09:51 PM   #1
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Question Timmons vs the run, cause for concern

Uh-Oh, Lawrence Timmons struggles against the run.
By Dagger | August 24, 2009



Two preseason games in the books and in both contests Lawrence Timmons has looked very shaky vs the run. We all thought it was odd last year when Timmons appeared ready to start yet remained on the bench on 1st and 2nd down. Larry Foote was clearly playing his last season with the Steelers yet still held down the starting job over Timmons. We may be slowly starting to understand why Timmons was being “hidden” and only came onto the field on 3rd down and passing situations. He’s great at getting to the QB, he can drop into a zone, and is athletic enough to cover a RB, TE, or even a WR in coverage.
Two meaningless preseason games aren’t enough visual evidence to send us into a panic but the Steelers need Timmons to plug holes, track the ball, shed blocks, and tackle guys in the run game.
While Timmons has struggled a bit through two games, Keyaron Fox has looked fantastic. He is playing so well, in fact, that some people out there wouldn’t mind seeing Fox step into Foote’s old role as the ILB on 1st and 2nd down and then giving way to Timmons on 3rd and passing situations. It’s a bit early to suggest a move as drastic as this, but it really wouldn’t be a bad idea if Keyaron Fox is able to keep up this level of play. I’m not ready to go this far just yet, but it’s nice to know that if for some reason Timmons struggles, Fox is a guy that is capable of stepping in and playing the role of Larry Foote. It’s also important to note that Fox is being given the chance to see some action with the starters in short-yardage and goal line situations. Obviously the coaches like the way he is playing right now.
Take a look at the 2 minute video we posted below. Timmons flashes his speed and skill a few times but he also has some incredibly ugly snaps. Fox is also featured and looks great. I think you will find that Timmons struggles when the ball is run right at him. When the ball goes the other direction, he is great at tracking down the ballcarrier with his speed. Fox on the other hand looks like a natural ILB and doesn’t care if the play is run at him or away from him. He sheds blocks, tracks the ball, and makes a play.

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http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=6243073&amp

http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=7417
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Old 08-25-2009, 09:58 PM   #2
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Default Re: Timmons vs the run, cause for concern

He's a little light and may struggle head-on against a bigger back up the gut. But one of his main attributes is his speed. Dude can get to either side and cut off the outside run in a heart beat. Hopefully he can make the tackle, but I think he still brings something to the table.

Maybe Fox will take Timmons place in short yardage sits. Who knows.

I can't view videos here so I commented based on my own observations.
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He'll be playing more this weekend. We'll see what happens. It's something the Steelers need to keep an eye on though.
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There is no way LT will be as good as LF vs the run.......
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Like I've said before, trade Timmons NOW while there are still teams out there that believe that he has great value. If Timmons happens to sit around playing special teams, and 3rd downs in this his 3rd season, then you can bet your bottom dollar that his value will drop off tremendously. At that point the Steelers will be stuck with a 1st round draft choice who has done nothing more than play spot football. He'll walk away after his contract expires, if he isn't released first, and the Steelers will get nothing in return. Trade him now Steelers, there are still morons out there who believe that Timmons is a beast.
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dude.... even if timmons is a complete bust (which he wont be) do you think teams bat 1.000 on 100% of their first round picks all of the time?

timmons will be fine. you are about the only person on earth who buys in to theis "trade timmons now" philosophy, which pretty much supports that its a rather bogus idea.

let it go. its not happenin. hate the rooneys if you dont like it.
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Default Re: Timmons vs the run, cause for concern

I think Timmons will be good enough against the run. He just has to tackle low instead of trying to tackle high.

Do the highlight hits come from hitting high? Yes, but I would rather have Timmons tackle low and make the tackle than get blown up or hurt trying to tackle high.
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QUOTE=tony hipchest;644966]dude.... even if timmons is a complete bust (which he wont be) do you think teams bat 1.000 on 100% of their first round picks all of the time?
No I don't believe that, where have you seen a posting such as that from me? It sounds like some others may need to come to realize that Timmons may just become, dare I say, No, I'll just say he may prove to be a big disappointment.

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timmons will be fine. you are about the only person on earth who buys in to theis "trade timmons now" philosophy, which pretty much supports that its a rather bogus idea.
Then so be it, that will make it that much sweeter if I'm the "only person" who saw it coming.

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Nah, I'll never hate the Rooneys. I'm just predicting that Timmons will be "another 1st round draft choice mistake" by the Steelers organization. If it doesn't happen it doesn't happen but as far as I'm concerned, Timmons is yet to impress many.
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