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Old 09-02-2009, 08:39 PM   #1
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/previe...ent&id=4436281
HE ELITE

Quarterbacks demonstrating total mastery of the position with no holes in their game and a Super Bowl victory to back it up. Future Hall of Famers.

1. Peyton Manning, Indianapolis

Analysis: Ultimate coach on the field … processes and executes more information at a high level than anybody who has ever played the game … never has an offense functioned around one individual more than it has Manning … unbelievable durability, second only to Brett Favre … unrivaled combination of durability and dependability.

2. Tom Brady, New England

Analysis: Best pocket instincts in the league … unwaveringly disciplined in his approach and execution (film study, weight room, how he plays, etc.) … uses tricks of trade very well to manipulate defenses (through snap counts, eye placement, pump fakes) … on par with Manning in recognizing and accounting for last-second defensive adjustments.


SUPERSTARS

Quarterbacks with no holes in their games who have demonstrated an ability to carry their teams. They are a championship ring away from joining Manning and Brady among the elite. There's no game plan these guys can't beat.

1. Drew Brees, New Orleans

Analysis: Master dissector of defenses … as good off rhythm as on rhythm … inspirational, fiery leader who demands excellence from those around him.

2. Philip Rivers, San Diego

Analysis: Demonstrative, animated, tough, outspoken, fiery and hypercompetitive … consistently makes the most difficult throws in the NFL and it's not even close … one of very few quarterbacks who could flourish in Chargers-style system favoring throws 15-25 yards downfield (as opposed to slants, checkdowns and soft-spot zone plays) … remarkable efficiency considering how many high-risk throws he must make in game.

STARS

Quarterbacks who have overcome small holes in their games to produce in a big way and enjoy big-game success. These are consistent prime-time performers, with very little separating them from Superstar status.

1. Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh

Analysis: Best improvisational quarterback in the league … has vastly improved as rhythm and timing passer … growing in his understanding of defenses and use of hot throws … growing in the discipline of the position (handling pressure, mastering how defenses are trying to attack).


2. Donovan McNabb, Philadelphia

Analysis: Huge production for an extended period of time … offense built around him … ability to extend the play makes him very hard to defend … no such thing as a dead play with McNabb … can beat the perfect defensive call because of his experience combined with strength and athleticism … sometimes inconsistent with his accuracy.

3. Eli Manning, New York Giants

Analysis: Proven winner who has become a great big-game quarterback … cerebral player … has huge responsibilities at the line of scrimmage, allowing the Giants to be very multiple on offense, paying huge dividends in the run game (almost every run they have is some sort of box-count run or is conditional on safety alignment or defensive spacing, with Manning getting the Giants into better running plays) … still shows inconsistency as a passer.

4. Kurt Warner, Arizona

Analysis: Unbelievable production across multiple systems … anticipates his throws in the passing game better than anybody … has resurrected two teams … has struggled with ball security in the pocket, though not so much last season, and can be too aggressive at times.

5. Matt Hasselbeck, Seattle

Analysis: One of the best at manipulating the pocket … as good as anybody at controlling the middle of field in the passing game, showing very good accuracy and timing between the numbers … shows creativity … has shown he can handle as much as anyone at the line of scrimmage … durability issues could be a concern.


Am I just being a homer thinking two guys whom have never won a Superbowl Ring deserve to be categorized as "Superstars" while Big Ben with some of the most impressive stats and 2 rings is only in the "Stars" category? Personally I think he belongs in the Elite... more to the article btw if you read the whole thing
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What an utterly worthless waste of a read.

But thanks ...
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Old 09-02-2009, 08:46 PM   #3
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Big Ben should have his own category called "Winner"
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Just more Brady fondling.



Ben could dink-dank-dunk too, like Brady does and like Cassel did. But what would be the point? ... that he could have a passer rating of 100 and a completion percentage of 65? ... who the fukc cares?

Brady would get killed in any other system than the one he plays in.

He'd get killed in Indianapolis, where the count is four instead of two.

Brady would get killed in San Diego's downfield pass offense.

He'd get absolutely killed in Pittsburgh's offense behind Pittsburgh's o-line with Pittsburgh's pass attack. He'd survive 3 games.



Brady is the most over-rated QB in the history of the game. Chase his sorry ass out of the pocket and he sucks the wad. He is the ultimate dink-dank-dunk guy who ever existed.

And WTF is this channel-dweller putting Big Ben in a class with Hasselbeck? ... are you kidding me?
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Shitty QBs Who Lucked Into a Ring By Playing On a Team With an Historically Good Defense

1. Trent Dilfer
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Big Ben should have his own category called "Winner"
no... that category is reserved for trent.... AKA "qb who sucked but actually won something".

trent dilfer probably thinks he coulda quarterbacked the steelers to 9 straight championships.

personally, i dont care if ben is recognized as the #1 or #5 ranked qb in the league. anyone who doesnt see him as top 5 is a complete dipshit though.
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wow, and here I thought I actually respected some of the things Dilfer had to say...this just totally knocked him down several pegs...
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I can't disagree with that... as much of a winner as Ben is, you can't deny there are holes in his game.
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I can't disagree with that... as much of a winner as Ben is, you can't deny there are holes in his game.
Tell ya what - put Peyton Manning behind our OL in Heinz Field in a game in the middle of December and watch how "flawless" his game is then.
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