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Old 11-11-2010, 01:20 AM   #61
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Federal police had arrested Escobedo, the hit man whose killing apparently triggered the violence, earlier this year on suspicion of killing six drug ******* on June 16 at a rehabilitation center and orchestrating 14 murders in 2009.
I was trying to figure out what word a mainstream newspaper could have used that our forum would star out, then I realized it was "a d d i c t s". That's just a sad reminder of the paranoia of the previous regime here. Can we get that changed?

As far as Juarez... damn. That's all I can say.
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better yet, we are just gonna censor the word u n i v e r s e.

(seriously though, i thought the same thing when i re-read the article and saw the profanity filter in action- the absurdity of the wahoo's will be looked into ).

the el paso paper leaves nothing short of good reading. one only needs to check it out about once a week to stumble across the latest massacre or body dismemberment.

the 2 US citizen UTEP students recently mowed down by drug lord's lead seems to be a rather big story as well..
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Old 11-14-2010, 01:29 AM   #63
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Carlsbad Taverns? Sounds fun, but I had to drive.

No, I didn't do any gambling this time. I've been to 2 in New Mexico before, Sunland Park and some other one on my way to Colorado. I live within ten minutes of 2 casinos, and within an hour of five more. So I have plenty to choose from when I feel like donating some cash.
speaking of driving.... a bit off topic of the thread, but i just recently drove all the way through the middle of OK.

whats up with the same damn interstate being called 3 seperate toll roads with 3 seperate booths to pay? WTF?

and whats up with the sides of their roads and the middle of nowhere being mowed to be the most finely cropped land 100 miles from anywhere (and in the entire midwest)?

mowing wild grass there seems about as productive as shoveling sand here.
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speaking of driving.... a bit off topic of the thread, but i just recently drove all the way through the middle of OK.

whats up with the same damn interstate being called 3 seperate toll roads with 3 seperate booths to pay? WTF?

and whats up with the sides of their roads and the middle of nowhere being mowed to be the most finely cropped land 100 miles from anywhere (and in the entire midwest)?

mowing wild grass there seems about as productive as shoveling sand here.


Welcome to the wonderful passageway known as I-44.

(Unless you meant the Creek Turnpike in Tulsa, which has at least that many names, and tolls.)

If you follow 44 from Texas to Tulsa there's actually 4 tolls you get to pay. It's only a total of $8.75, and your money buys you the right to enjoy needless road construction that never seems to actually happen, the wonderful pleasure of Oklahoma City traffic, and the miles and miles of well kept grass you speak of. And the beauty of it is, the state has millions and millions of dollars in unspent toll money, and they just raised the prices a year or so ago.

Speaking of road construction, I noticed the highway going south out of Carlsbad (180 I think) still isn't finished. And the old part seemed perfectly smooth to me.

I liked New Mexico though. I was just going through my phone and found a picture of the giant pistachio in Alomogordo. I think that was where I stopped for some cherry cider too on my way from Colorado. The first drink was enough, but I couldn't stop.
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I liked New Mexico though. I was just going through my phone and found a picture of the giant pistachio in Alomogordo.
i have no idea what you are talking about.

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i have no idea what you are talking about.

You're a nut!

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And the beauty of it is, the state has millions and millions of dollars in unspent toll money, and they just raised the prices a year or so ago.

Speaking of road construction, I noticed the highway going south out of Carlsbad (180 I think) still isn't finished. And the old part seemed perfectly smooth to me.

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I-44 it is. i swear theres nothing withing a 100 mile radius of OKC other than grass and mowers.

new mexico's state tree is the orange road construction barrel.

OK can always donate some of that money to missouri to trim all those damn trees.

sometimes being a desert rat you miss out on some of the finer things in life, such as grass, trees.... or water.
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speaking of driving.... a bit off topic of the thread, but i just recently drove all the way through the middle of OK.

whats up with the same damn interstate being called 3 seperate toll roads with 3 seperate booths to pay? WTF?

and whats up with the sides of their roads and the middle of nowhere being mowed to be the most finely cropped land 100 miles from anywhere (and in the entire midwest)?

mowing wild grass there seems about as productive as shoveling sand here.
You should try driving across France sometime. I've never seen anything like it. You'd drive 20 km and there'd be a toll, then another 5 km and another toll, then 40 and another toll, and so on... no rhyme or reason, and no correlation of kms-to-€s. The short routes would sometimes charge as much or more than the long stretches.

So far as I could tell, it was some kind of experiment with privatization. I was in a murderous rage by the time we got to Bordeaux. Probably a glimpse of the future here as well.
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A new milestone.

Mexican border city hits 3,000 dead in drug war

http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/12...hits-3000.html

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CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico — Authorities say this year's death toll in drug-related violence in the border city of Ciudad Juarez rose to 3,000 Tuesday after two men were shot dead on a street.

Juarez is the city hardest hit by Mexico's drug war and has seen its homicide rate rise to one of the highest in the world. That's after vicious turf battles broke out between gangs representing the Juarez and Sinaloa drug cartels in 2008.

That year, 1,623 people were killed in drug-related violence, and the toll increased to 2,763 deaths in 2009.

With prosecutors' spokesman Arturo Sandoval announcing the latest grim milestone, a total of 7,386 people have died in the city of 1.3 million people across the border from El Paso, Texas, in three years.
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i remember thinking 1600 in a year was unbelievable.

it is nowhere close to getting better-

4,000 Juárez doctors go on strike


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JUAREZ -- It was a different kind of strike.

In this one, physicians were not demanding better working conditions, higher salaries or better benefits.

In a city that averages nine murders a day, about 4,000 doctors refused to work Monday in a drastic measure to protest the government's inability to curtail drug-cartel violence.

"We physicians are asking public safety for Juárez," said Isela Martínez, a surgeon. "It is not only for us, but we see ourselves as leaders in public opinion."

At 8 a.m. Monday, thousands of physicians went on a 24-hour strike that may extend beyond today. A doctors' committee roughly calculated that between 4,000 and 4,500 doctors stopped working as a form of protest.

The four largest private hospitals shut their doors and would take only emergency patients such as victims of shootings and car accidents. Dozens of smaller clinics joined the strike and closed their doors.

Three public hospitals run by the Mexican Institute of Social Security, or IMSS, were operating with minimal staff.

Hospital administrators brought in resident physicians from Chihuahua City to fill the gap left by the angry strikers.

At another public hospital, the Institute for Social Security and Services for State Workers, the strike may go on for 48 hours.

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seem out of the ordinary at some of the public hospitals Monday, but some patients were not finding their doctors. They lost their long-awaited appointments.
Esperanza Díaz took her 6-year-old daughter who has Down syndrome and heart problems to one of the IMSS hospitals. Díaz traveled two hours on a bus only to find her pediatrician was on strike.

"It is very important a doctor sees her every two months," she said.

Doctors also were worried.

At least 200 of them gathered Monday morning to formulate a petition at a basketball court of the Mexican Institute of Social Security's labor union offices. The doctors -- some of whom have been kidnapped and the majority extorted -- seemed nervous and frustrated as they sat and waited.

One of their demands was for authorities to solve the kidnapping and murder of José Alberto Betancourt, an orthopedic surgeon who lived in El Paso. He was kidnapped at gunpoint on Dec. 2 and found dead two days later. His slaying triggered the strike.

The doctors also demanded more investigative agents and the cleansing of the local police corps. Physicians also want more soldiers and the Mexican federal police to decrease their presence.

"The government has not listened to us and that is why we had to resort to striking" said one of the leaders of the Juárez doctors' committee, Leticia Chavarría. "We know that it is affecting our community, but it is the only way."

Some ideas doctors voiced were "radical," they said, but necessary to put pressure on the government.

Dr. Alejandro Flores Olivares, who practices general surgery at IMSS, for instance, said doctors do not want to treat patients who are known to be criminals.

"It is outrageous that we are saving the lives of those who steal from us, those who attack us and kill us," he said.

Flores said some private hospitals receive calls threatening doctors to let patients -- and alleged rival drug-gang members-- die or face death.
Criminal groups have kidnapped at least 20 doctors since drug-cartel violence erupted in Juárez in 2008.

One of them was a surgeon who did not want to be identified, fearing for his life.

Two years ago, he received a call from a woman claiming she needed an appointment. Instead, five gunmen arrived and abducted him for the four days leading to Christmas Eve of 2008.

"We had to pay ransom," he said.

The gunmen freed him, and he filed a police report on his kidnapping. "To this day, I am waiting for them to solve the crime," he said.

Most doctors participating in the strike did not have high hopes. They said worse things are yet to come, but they will be ready to respond.

"Every time a doctor is kidnapped, we will go on strike again," Chavarría said.
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