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Old 09-16-2009, 05:38 PM   #1
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Default Zone blocking vs Man blocking Official Thread

Ok. With so many threads touching on this issue, I thought it would be good to centralize it.

Are we a zone blocking or man blocking team.. or both?

We started the change from man blocking to zone blocking in 2003 because of injury. In 2004, we were a more zone-block system than man, according to Jerome Bettis and Gary Dulac http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...locking+scheme

In August of 2007, Arians is talking about how they plan to do a LOT MORE zone blocking-http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...locking+scheme

Now... What are the elements of the zone blocking scheme?

1. TE's being used as fullbacks... CHECK. We do that.
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But as offensive strategy evolved, teams began experimenting with zone blocking, with the tight end taking on responsibilities once delegated to the fullback. Extra receivers were added to the mix. The basic I-formation, once a staple of the sport, became something of a quaint notion.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/footb...ks-cover_N.htm

Also, moving east to west as opposed to north and south in blocking... CHECK we do that.

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So IMO, YES, we are a zone blocking team. Now, Why do we have problems running the football? It very well may be because we have a man blocking set of Offensive lineman running a zone block scheme.

However, This development started in 2003. It was probably implemented to attack all the 3-4 defenses we were starting to play.
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*witnessing the birth of yet another arians bashing thread*
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Old 09-16-2009, 05:55 PM   #3
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Default Re: Zone blocking vs Man blocking Official Thread

I think 64 year old Larry Zierlein(our OL coach) spends too much time watching porn movies in his office, I wonder if he has seen any of my collection
I do not mind emailing them to him
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Zierlein gained unwanted notoriety in 2007 when he mistakenly forwarded an inappropriate e-mail to a large number of high-level NFL employees, including commissioner Roger Goodell. The e-mail, which Zierlein had received from Steelers pro personnel coordinator Doug Whaley contained a pornographic video. Zierlein apologized for the gaffe, but was not disciplined by the team or the league.[6]
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Nah. Just Willie Colon.
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Mahan sucks!
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No, hell with the whole OL, Ben can win without them!
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No, hell with the whole OL, Ben can win without them!
now youre thinkin....but i think ben needs sombody in front of him, so i say we just take our best players and put them on the oline....since according to this board, the Oline cannot get any worse...I say we put Polomalu, Ward, Harrison, Reed, and Heath on the line......................wait wait wait, since Ben holds the ball waaaaaaaay to long hes really no good at QB for us anyway, so we could throw him in at Center, and start Batch at QB. I really think im onto something here
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Default Re: Zone blocking vs Man blocking Official Thread

If you really want to understand what zone blocking is, rather than find some selective quotes that further your own views, then here is a nice video of some "X's and O's " of a "inside zone right play"

In this link the Nebraska O line coach describes how to block an inside zone and the initial footwork and movements. PLEASE NOTICE THAT THERE IS NO PULLING O LINEMAN. THEY MERELY STEP LATERALLY IN THE DIRECTION OF THE PLAY, then engage the defender.

http://www.zoneblocking.com/2009/01/...locking-video/
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If you really want to understand what zone blocking is, rather than find some selective quotes that further your own views, then here is a nice video of some "X's and O's " of a "inside zone right play"

In this link the Nebraska O line coach describes how to block an inside zone and the initial footwork and movements. PLEASE NOTICE THAT THERE IS NO PULLING O LINEMAN. THEY MERELY STEP LATERALLY IN THE DIRECTION OF THE PLAY, then engage the defender.

http://www.zoneblocking.com/2009/01/...locking-video/
The point I believe, is that we are a hybrid with a tilt to zone block system. that doesn't mean that we use zone blocking the entire time.

From 2003, we have incorporated both systems, while gradually using more and more of the zone blocking system.

Yes, there is no pulling guard in the zone block. However, the traditional man to man system DOES NOT USE TE's AS FB'S .

And often moves to multiple receivers. We are a hybrid with a tilt to Zone block system.

BTW, those weren't "selective quotes" to "further my views" They were the result concerning coaching systems of the Steelers. I really don't know where else to go except Jerome Bettis, Arians, and those who cover them. However, I do think they would know better what the Steelers do than any of us.
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The point I believe, is that we are a hybrid with a tilt to zone block system. that doesn't mean that we use zone blocking the entire time.

From 2003, we have incorporated both systems, while gradually using more and more of the zone blocking system.

Yes, there is no pulling guard in the zone block. However, the traditional man to man system DOES NOT USE TE's AS FB'S .

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so we've gradually been adopting this system since 03, yet havent used the TE as a FB until the later part of 08?
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