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Old 10-04-2009, 11:11 PM   #1
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Default The non-whining defense discussion.

Ok. This is a non-whining thread. Let's talk about the D WITHOUT over-sweeping terms like "They suck" "so and so needs to be benched" etc.

1. Blitzing. Am I wrong, it does it look like we are not blitzing enough now?

2. We are playing zone coverage, allowing stuff underneath. That has been true for quite some time now... but it was different last year. Why? Was our tackling that much better last year?

3. Why in the 4th quarter? Is it age, or is it just not getting/staying aggressive enough?

Please... let's DISCUSS the issues... not WHINE about them.
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:13 PM   #2
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Default Re: The non-whining defense discussion.

No prevent..please!!!
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:15 PM   #3
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Default Re: The non-whining defense discussion.

some of my thoughts....

-we are still blitzing but they seem to not be getting through/working,

-this game proved to me that its not us getting tired (since time of possession was way in our favor) playing bad football late in the game

-so what is it??
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Default Re: The non-whining defense discussion.

We aren't blitzing as much as we have in the past, that's for sure. Troy's absence has something to do with it I'm sure, but it seems like we run out of steam later in games, which might have something to do with age, or we are "losing urgency." I'm glad we get Troy back next week.
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:16 PM   #5
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Default Re: The non-whining defense discussion.

I think some of it is the qb's are getting the ball out faster and negating the rush.
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some of my thoughts....

-we are still blitzing but they seem to not be getting through/working,

-this game proved to me that its not us getting tired (since time of possession was way in our favor) playing bad football late in the game

-so what is it??
In the preseason, a few of us where wondering if there was a tell from the O line when we were running....

I wonder if there is a tell on the D that others are picking up by the fourth quarter???

That, or teams are abandoning the run... and we are finding out that we just catch cover underneath for some reason.
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Ok. This is a non-whining thread. Let's talk about the D WITHOUT over-sweeping terms like "They suck" "so and so needs to be benched" etc.

1. Blitzing. Am I wrong, it does it look like we are not blitzing enough now?

2. We are playing zone coverage, allowing stuff underneath. That has been true for quite some time now... but it was different last year. Why? Was our tackling that much better last year?

3. Why in the 4th quarter? Is it age, or is it just not getting/staying aggressive enough?

Please... let's DISCUSS the issues... not WHINE about them.
It seems like we are a step slow on our blitzes. I do like how LeBeau is moving Deebo around a little. That seemed to allow him to get through. Woodley is the one that is puzzling me. To me, Timmons has been a disappointment as a starter. Seems to overrun a lot of plays...completely taking himself out of the play.

To me, the difference is missing Troy. Troy always seems to make the key INT, Tackle, etc. The QB has to account for him when he is in there. Without him, we are weak covering the underneath stuff. Think about how many games Troy has made a great play that stopped drives. That was happening against Tennessee, but hasn't happened since he's been out.

I don't think it's age, nor conditioning. I think it all relates back to your second question...we miss Troy back there. He is the one guy we absolutely cannot lose on defense.

I firmly believe that if Troy was healthy, that we would be 4-0.
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Default Re: The non-whining defense discussion.

This was posted by Steeldude in the other thread, but one weakness of the Steelers' D has been covering TEs. And I think that is where Troy is missed the most, because our LBs aren't good enough to handle a TE like Gates. That, and they really, REALLY, need to pull the prevent defense out of the playbook. This game should never have been this close with the way the offense performed tonight. However, they did manage to sack Rivers 4 times, which is NOT easy to do, and Deebo got the sack-strip to put the game away. Still though, this HAS to be troubling to the defense, and yes, it does mean Troy means everything to them. He's the difference between a good defense and a great one.
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Default Re: The non-whining defense discussion.

I know that he did have 2 sacks tonight and the refs constantly miss holding calls, but it still seems like opposing offenses are blocking Harrison better.

On several key plays tonight, it seemed like Harrison not only got blocked but got pushed sideways towards the near sideline and away from the QB, thus buying Rivers precious extra seconds.

I wonder what could be a good counter measure for this...
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troy.

he is important.
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