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Old 10-15-2009, 06:56 AM   #1
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Default Cleveland players still call Steelers a rivalry, and look to exorcise demons Sunday

Cleveland players still call Steelers a rivalry, and looking to exorcise demons Sunday
October 15, 2:29 AMPittsburgh Sports Examiner
Matt Pawlikowski
http://www.examiner.com/x-2703-Pitts...-demons-Sunday


CLEVELAND - It is one of the most storied rivalries in the NFL, the oldest in the AFC North, but since the Browns returned in 1999 it has been a one-sided black and gold fest at best.
During that period, the Steelers have won two Super Bowls and had two coaches in Bill Cowher and Mike Tomlin, the Browns have been to the playoffs just once, losing to the Steelers and they have had three, Chris Palmer, Butch Davis, Romeo Crennel

Cowher went 21-5 against the Browns,Tomlin is 4-0, and well the Browns guys? They've won just three of 19 contests. So much for the turnpike rivalry.

But the Browns, now under the guidance of a new coach in Eric Mangini, with many new faces are looking for some payback, if not a little respect.

"With the Steelers, I think everybodyís excited to get working on it," Mangini said. "Everybody appreciates the rivalry, the intensity, the passion, especially playing in their stadium and the type of environment that is and the challenges it creates."

The last time the Browns faced the Steelers at Heinz Field it was a debacle. They lost 31-0 and were completely listless. But it was a much closer game in week two, when the Steelers eked out a 10-6 win in Cleveland during a driving rain storm with hurricane force winds.

In 2008 the Steelers smacked the Browns around during the opener in Cleveland, 34-7, but at Heinz Field, won 31-28.

"The games that I have played in, we just havenít finished. We have played pretty well and we just havenít finished the ball game," Browns quarterback Derek Anderson said. " I donít want to get too involved in the story about us not beating them 11 times in a row or anything like that. Itís a new season. Itís a new year. We are different players then they have had in the past. We are a different team."

So yes, the Browns have come close to beating the Steelers and have played well at times, but close is good only in hand grenades and horseshoes. When it comes to past history of playing the men of steel, there seems to be some kind of jinx hanging over the Browns.

Back in the early 1980's former coach Sam Rutigliano discounted that notion, telling reporters after a loss in Pittsburgh; "That jinx baloney is for Halloween. Naive questions like that deserve naive answers." and that philosophy seems to be the approach the current Browns are taking to Sunday's game.

"There is no mental block," left tackle Joe Thomas said. "This is a new team this year and there are a lot of new faces, guys who have never even played the Steelers. It all comes down to doing your assignments and making plays like any week."

While many of the current Steelers don't look at the game as being the rivalry it used to be, many of the Browns who have been around realize the significance and meaning of it and what a win would do for a city that has come upon hard times.

"I think the excitement of the game, the rivalry," Anderson said. " Kellen (Winslow) and Joey Porter going at it. Him stiff arming Joey and all of that. The emotion that is in the game. I think both teams understand the rivalry. Obviously, I have a sour taste in my mouth from the time when we had them down, up there a couple years ago. I will never forget that.Ē

Josh Cribbs, who has been the one constant thorn in the Steelers side since donning a Browns uniform, added this about the rivarly.

"I believe so. You can ask any Browns fan," Cribbs said. "That will make their life, their day, their week, however you want to look at it, if we can beat this football team. Theyíre a great football team.

"They went to the Super Bowl in the past three years numerous times. Theyíre a great football team, great quarterback, great defense. We have to be on our game to match up with them."
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:50 AM   #2
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A new coach
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Nothing new in the results
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:22 AM   #3
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Sorry, it's no longer a rivalry when they can't beat the Steelers. Somewhere down the road they can renew the rivalry but right now the Steelers own them and have for a decade.
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Uhhhhhhhh.......No. Nuff said
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You don't know how big of a game this is for Steeler fans in Northern Ohio. Watching the two Super Bowls will be the ultimate thrill for me as a fan, but right behind that is this winning streak over the Stains. Browns fans disgust me.. for this week that includes my in-laws.
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Old 10-15-2009, 01:45 PM   #6
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Sorry, it's no longer a rivalry when they can't beat the Steelers. Somewhere down the road they can renew the rivalry but right now the Steelers own them and have for a decade.
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This can not be a rivalry. Both teams have to be pretty even and both teams should have their fair share of victories against each other and its not even close.
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well the way the steelers have been mailing in the second half and playing down to the competition, i'm not putting a check in the W column just yet. remember back in the 90's they used to wear those shirts that said 60 minutes ?
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It used to be a rivalry...and I wish it would be again (starting on Sunday.) However, until we can prove that we can win, it's not a rivalry. It's just another beating.
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Default Re: Cleveland players still call Steelers a rivalry, and looking to exorcise demons S

Unfortunately, the true rivalry with the Browns moved to Baltimore and became a shade of purple. Thanks Fart Modell. Steelers/Browns before the move was becoming pretty heated and the games were ALWAYS close. Just like Steelers/Ravens today. When the Browns left, the spirit left. The New Browns had a good start in reigniting the rivalry (Beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh in 1999, and again in Cleveland in 2000) but since have been unable to recapture that spirit.

Even if the Browns pull off the upset Sunday, it's still a while to go before it becomes a nasty rivalry again.
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