Why register with the Steelers Fever Forums?
 • Intelligent and friendly discussions.
 • It's free and it's quick. Always.
 • Enter events in the forums calendar.
 • Very user friendly software.
 • Exclusive contests and giveaways.

 Donate to Steelers Fever, Click here
 Our 2014 Goal: $450.00 - To Date: $450.00 (100.00%)
 Home | Forums | Editorials | Shop | Tickets | Downloads | Contact Pittsburgh Steelers Forum Feed Not Just Fans. Hardcore Fans.

Go Back   Steelers Fever Forums > Steelers Football > Pittsburgh Steelers


Steelers Fever Fan Shop

Doc's Sports Get FREE NFL Picks and College Football picks as well as Football Lines like live NFL Lines and updated NFL Power Rankings all at Doc's Sports Service.

Steelers

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-16-2009, 07:31 AM   #1
mesaSteeler
A Son of Martha
Supporter
 

Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Mesa, Arizona
Posts: 7,976
Gender: Male
Member Number: 10438
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Fourth quarters plaguing Steelers defense

Fourth quarters plaguing Steelers defense
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt...s_648234.html#
By Scott Brown
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Friday, October 16, 2009

Dick LeBeau got a tad defensive Thursday.

And the subject which brought out a side that LeBeau rarely shows: whether the Steelers have been too passive during the fourth quarter of games.

"I think if you check my track record, we're going to come after you," LeBeau said following practice Thursday. "I don't know what the numbers were, but I think we got a few sacks (51) last year.

"We try to be intelligent about that because pressure is no good (if you lose) the element of surprise. If everybody knows you're pressuring all the time, then they're just going to max (protect) and get some big plays in there. We'll try to change it up, but we're definitely a pressure defense."

The Steelers haven't always turned up the heat on opponents, particularly in the fourth quarter. Fifty-five of the 98 points they have yielded have come in the final 15 minutes of games. And in losses to the Bears and Bengals, the Steelers gave up a combined 251 yards of total offense in the fourth quarter after largely shutting down each team through the first three quarters.

Last Sunday in Detroit, the Steelers staved off an upset bid by sacking quarterback Daunte Culpepper on three consecutive plays.

The Steelers, in fact, blitzed Culpepper on eight of the nine plays of Detroit's final possession. Yet on the touchdown drive that allowed Detroit to pull within eight points earlier in the quarter, the Steelers blitzed just one time in seven plays.

"We haven't changed our personality," Steelers coach Mike Tomlin said. "We want to apply pressure to the quarterback. If you can do it with four, great. If you need more than four, then we're willing to do that. I think consistent pressure on the quarterback is the key to playing good defense."

So too is creating turnovers, and the Steelers are averaging less than one takeaway a game.

"That's an area we are addressing daily, and we do need to produce more turnovers," LeBeau said. "I think if you play good defense, turnovers will come."

Getting Troy Polamalu back - the All-Pro safety is on track to play Sunday for the first time since Sept. 10 - should help the Steelers rediscover their opportunistic side.

What the Steelers gain by the return of Polamalu, however, has been tempered by the loss of defensive end Aaron Smith to a season-ending shoulder injury.

Along with the questions raised by the loss of Smith is the running one of whether this unit can dominate the way last year's defense did - and close out offenses in the fourth quarter.

To do the latter, the Steelers need to generate a pass rush on a consistent basis and not hurt themselves with untimely penalties - they have had pass-interference penalties in three consecutive games.

"We're not trying to be the 2008 defense because that's in the past," cornerback William Gay said. "All we're trying to do is get better, and the stats and all of that will come later."

A closer look

The Steelers have given up more points in the fourth quarter (55) than the other three quarters combined (43). Here is a look at how many yards they have yielded in the fourth quarter compared to the other three quarters this season

Opponent Fourth quarter First three

Titans 52 268

Bears 112 163

Bengals 139 134

Chargers 81 170

Lions 95 240

Scott Brown can be reached at sbrown@tribweb.com or 412-481-5432.
mesaSteeler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2009, 07:53 AM   #2
Slick93
Water Boy
 
Slick93's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Georgia
Posts: 32
Gender: Male
Member Number: 14947
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Fourth quarters plaguing Steelers defense

We've definately got to work on "finishing the game." It's a full 60 minutes, there can be no let up or let down, keep working the full hour of play. I think it's something that will get corrected, hopefully Troy being back will have an impact this week and the D will shine for all four quarters of play.
__________________
Slick93 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2009, 10:35 AM   #3
Steelboy84
Banned
 
Steelboy84's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 2,962
Gender: Male
Member Number: 13983
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Fourth quarters plaguing Steelers defense

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slick93 View Post
We've definately got to work on "finishing the game." It's a full 60 minutes, there can be no let up or let down, keep working the full hour of play. I think it's something that will get corrected, hopefully Troy being back will have an impact this week and the D will shine for all four quarters of play.
Steelboy84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2009, 01:01 PM   #4
Dino 6 Rings
Living Legend
 
Dino 6 Rings's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Arkansas (formerly New Jersey)
Posts: 8,279
Gender: Male
Member Number: 6891
Thanks: 32
Thanked 106 Times in 58 Posts
Default Re: Fourth quarters plaguing Steelers defense

Never take your foot off their throat. Beat them bloody for 3 quarters, then beat them DEAD in the last quarter.

That is how we need to do it!
__________________
SuperBowl Wins - How many does YOUR team have?
Steelers 6, 49ers 5, Boys 5, Packers 4, Giants 4, Skins 3, Raiders 3, Pats 3, Broncos 2, Fins 2, Colts 2, Ravens 2 Bears 1,Jets 1, Bucs 1, Rams 1, Chiefs 1, Seahawks 1, Saints1
Dino 6 Rings is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2009, 03:08 PM   #5
Twizted
Water Boy
 
Twizted's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: South Georgia
Posts: 25
Gender: Male
Member Number: 15062
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Fourth quarters plaguing Steelers defense

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dino 6 Rings View Post
Never take your foot off their throat. Beat them bloody for 3 quarters, then beat them DEAD in the last quarter.

That is how we need to do it!
Nicely put, you can't really take anything for granted. No matter what we've got to "finish the drill" no matter what the score or who the opponent.
Twizted is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2009, 03:29 PM   #6
Steelboy84
Banned
 
Steelboy84's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 2,962
Gender: Male
Member Number: 13983
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Fourth quarters plaguing Steelers defense

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dino 6 Rings View Post
Never take your foot off their throat. Beat them bloody for 3 quarters, then beat them DEAD in the last quarter.

That is how we need to do it!
Steelboy84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2009, 03:31 PM   #7
Nadroj 20
Team President
 
Nadroj 20's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,027
Gender: Male
Member Number: 14045
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Fourth quarters plaguing Steelers defense

DIno 6 Rings nailed it

Beat them down hard the first 3 and then keep it that way in the fourth!!!!!
Nadroj 20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2009, 04:35 PM   #8
El-Gonzo Jackson
Living Legend
 
El-Gonzo Jackson's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 9,963
Member Number: 8264
Thanks: 537
Thanked 3,554 Times in 1,685 Posts
Default Re: Fourth quarters plaguing Steelers defense

The D needs to get off the field and the Offense needs to stay on it longer.
__________________
El-Gonzo Jackson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2009, 05:17 PM   #9
Steelers & I
Banned
Supporter
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 772
Member Number: 10560
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Fourth quarters plaguing Steelers defense

It would help if the Steelers could avoid the types of scoring plays listed below that for some reason, are blamed on the defense.

Cincinnati TD 13:35 Johnathan Joseph 30 yd interception return (failed 2pt Rush)
Plays: 0 | Yards: 0 | Time: 0:00

San Diego TD 12:37 Jacob Hester 41 yd opp fumble return (Nate Kaeding kick)
Plays: 3 | Yards: -9 | Time: 1:02

Detroit TD 6:52 William James 38 yd interception return (Jason Hanson kick)
Plays: 0 | Yards: 0 | Time: 0:00

Roethlisberger threw for 221 yards and Holmes caught five passes for 83, yet Reed's problems in the fourth quarter gave the Bears the opening they needed.
"I'm just embarrassed, you know, because these guys fight their tails off to win the game," Reed said. "If there is one player that can single-handedly lose the game, I'll take credit for it."


The defense is taking A LOT of heat for the unusual circumstances that the offense and special teams have created.

Take away the "points against" that the offense and special teams have GIVEN up, and the Steeelers defense doesn't look so bad. Especially when you factor in that they've played without Troy Polamalu. Troy's return and a little less "GREEDY" play calling on offense should iron things out.
Steelers & I is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2009, 05:39 PM   #10
stb_steeler
Living Legend
Supporter
 
stb_steeler's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Pa
Posts: 3,567
Gender: Male
Member Number: 14315
Thanks: 173
Thanked 313 Times in 183 Posts
Default Re: Fourth quarters plaguing Steelers defense

Try running the ball in the 4th quarter more.. Get the 3rd and 1....Keep our defense out a bit longer to rest.
__________________

Might as well dress em in skirts!
stb_steeler is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:27 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Shoutbox provided by vBShout v6.2.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.0.8 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Navbar with Avatar by Motorradforum
no new posts