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Old 12-01-2009, 09:07 AM   #1
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Default offense vs defense

I was just curious with all the talk about offense not producing and whatnot..

The offense ranks 15th is scoring at 22.5 ppg which is actually better than last year's pace.

Looking at the defense, it is tied for 8th at 18.5 ppg which is roughly 4.5 ppg off of last year's pace. Last year's ppg was very good so to expect them to do that again was asking a bit much. It would at least help explain losing some close games that last year they would have won.

Looking at 2008:

The offense was 20th at 21.7.
The defense was 1st at 13.9.
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Old 12-01-2009, 09:12 AM   #2
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What's our PPG allowed without all the backbreaking cheap TDs we've given up on returns off of turnovers and ST miscues?
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Old 12-01-2009, 09:26 AM   #3
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Default Re: offense vs defense

Last year, we walked a fine line between winning and losing. 4 points is huge for the defense. Combine that with some costly turnovers by the offense and some injuries and you have a 6-5 team.
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Default Re: offense vs defense

That's the difference IMO. Take away the cheap TDs in the 2nd Bungle game and the KC game and maybe that's 2 more wins right there.

I don't know if Yahoo factors ST scores against the defense to be honest.
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That's the difference IMO. Take away the cheap TDs in the 2nd Bungle game and the KC game and maybe that's 2 more wins right there.

I don't know if Yahoo factors ST scores against the defense to be honest.
If the ball doesn't go through Minnesota RB Chester Taylors hands......

You can't play the "if" game. We are 6-5 and still have an opportunity. That's where we stand.
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If the ball doesn't go through Minnesota RB Chester Taylors hands......

You can't play the "if" game. We are 6-5 and still have an opportunity. That's where we stand.
I said MAYBE...and if Taylor catches that maybe then maybe that's a loss.
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Default Re: offense vs defense

Well, we gave up 4 Td's on ST's. Add in the XP's and that's 28 points.

28/11 games =2.54 points a game.

Sadly, there have been a total of 13 KR's for TD's this year...nearly a quarter of them have been on the Steelers...
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You can't play the "if" game. We are 6-5 and still have an opportunity. That's where we stand.
If they would've called the blatant block in the back on Harvin's KR for a TD....
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Counting all non offensive touchdowns this year I believe it has been 8 or 9. With 8 that would be 56 points.

204 totals points minus 56 non offensive=148

148/11= 13.45

So technically our defense is allowing 13.45 pts a game. Thats why looking at the stat of points per game against can be misleading.
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Counting all non offensive touchdowns this year I believe it has been 8 or 9. With 8 that would be 56 points.

204 totals points minus 56 non offensive=148

148/11= 13.45

So technically our defense is allowing 13.45 pts a game. Thats why looking at the stat of points per game against can be misleading.
to be fair, how many non offensive TDs did they have last year? That would have to be factored in for a comparison.
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