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Old 12-10-2009, 06:31 AM   #1
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Default Players standing up for coordinator LeBeau

Players standing up for coordinator LeBeau
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By Mark Kaboly
Daily News Sports Editor
Thursday, December 10, 2009

If you are one of the many who have come to the conclusion that 72-year-old defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau is the root of all the problems experienced by the once-dominant Steelers defense, veteran team captain James Farrior has a message for you.

"Those are people who really don't know football, don't really know our defense ...," he said.

LeBeau has come under scrutiny lately after his once impenetrable defense has blown five fourth-quarter leads that led to losses.

That criticism was ratcheted up this past week after his defense permitted an Oakland offense that had scored 10 touchdowns all season, to put up three in a matter of eight minutes last week, including the game-winner in the final seconds.

"Last year, they were praising him as the best defensive coordinator ever," defensive tackle Chris Hoke said. "Now, we are not making the plays at the end of the game, and all of a sudden, coach LeBeau is losing a step. That is totally ridiculous. Coach LeBeau still is very much with it."

Safety Troy Polamalu could be a big reason why LeBeau has come under scrutiny.

The Steelers are 4-1 in games the All-Pro has started. Polamalu hasn't been on the field for any of the late-game collapses.

Polamalu labels the blame being place on LeBeau, the oldest coach in the NFL, as fans just being fickle.

"I always think about Presidents and policies," Polamalu said. "I always think there must be a lot more that he knows about the situation than I know. That is definitely the case here."

LeBeau has enjoyed unparalleled success with the Steelers.

In his seven years spread over two stints as the Steelers' defensive coordinator, his unit has finished in the top five in total defense six times, including the top spot three times.

And he has basically done it with the same core group of people.

Half of the 25 defensive players currently on the roster never have played under a different defensive coordinator than LeBeau. Only eight have played for a different coordinator while with the Steelers.

That has made some, if not all, loyal to LeBeau.

Some of his players wore a replica of LeBeau's No. 44 Detroit Lions jersey before a New Year's Day game in 2006 and again before the Hall of Fame Game two years ago in Canton, Ohio.

"He is one of a kind," safety Tyrone Carter said. "He is one of the best defensive coordinators in the league. I don't think anybody can second guess what he has done. As players, we still believe in him. It is up to us to execute."

The players feel it is as simple as making plays and executing what LeBeau calls to turn things around.

"We are the ones out there who have to make plays," cornerback Ike Taylor said. "Regardless of what they want to say about coach LeBeau, it still comes down to the players on the field making plays."

Despite the turmoil, the Steelers still are one of the top defenses in the league. They rank fifth in total defense, but that pales in comparison to the defense from a year ago, when they came within 4 rushing yards per game allowed of being No. 1 across the board.

There has been some changeover from that team.

Polamalu has missed seven games, Pro Bowl defensive end Aaron Smith was lost for the year after Week 5 and cornerback Bryant McFadden signed with Arizona in the offseason.

Still, the team has total confidence in LeBeau.

"You don't do this as long as he has because you are not good at it," safety Ryan Clark said. "We need to play better. It's not his fault. It's not his fault at all."

Polamalu added: "I don't think anybody knows the game as much as coach LeBeau. I don't know if anybody knows the game three-quarters as much as coach LeBeau."

Mark Kaboly can be reached at mkaboly@dailynewsemail.com or 412-664-9161.
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Old 12-10-2009, 07:02 AM   #2
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The bottom line is that the players have to make plays and they have to keep to their responsibilities - see special teams. They are all not Troy and need to do what they are supposed to do. When they aren't then the scheme has to changed to try to get pressure on the QB, etc., and then you potentially have problems, and that seems to be what is happening. A lot of the ST guys are flying down out of control and out of their lanes and that makes creases. Most of our pressure comes from the outside forcing the QB up, but the down guys aren't getting a ton of pressure up the middle to collapse the pocket. They are getting washed to one side or the other creating lanes. DB's are trying to do too much but having to cover longer, which you can't do. There aren't too many burners back there, and when they are in trail and a QB has time, it's pretty much over at that point. Stay aggressive, but play smart and they will be fine.
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Old 12-10-2009, 07:24 AM   #3
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You know what would back up LeBeau? NOT playing with their heads up their arses!
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If our corners, who are highly paid "professional" athletes could only CATCH the ball, we would not have lost the KC and Oakland games....and would not be in a 4 game losing streak!
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If our corners, who are highly paid "professional" athletes could only CATCH the ball, we would not have lost the KC and Oakland games....and would not be in a 4 game losing streak!
what does their pay have to do with anything?
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LeBeau isnt the problem. Its the lack of playmakers in the secondary for the majority of this season.
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The offense is to blame not the Defense. How many 3 and outs per game do we see? How many of those are passing series over run series so the time on the clock doesn't run leaving the Defense more exposed?

There is plenty of blame to go around this year that is for sure but the offense has done very little these past 2 years to help the defense out. Go back to the game last year against Dallas when in the 1st 1/2 the Defense was giving the offense oppertunity after oppertunity and they couldn't take the game over until the final drive and then the Defense provided us the win. This year the Defense is worn down and it is high time the offense pick them up.

Who isn's scoring in the redzone this year? It aint the Defense it's the offense. Take a long hard look at it and I think you will see the Offense has not done enough to put games away early (other than the San Diego Game) and that has as much to do with our losses as anything. Fire B.A. and his questionable play calling!!!
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The offense is to blame not the Defense. How many 3 and outs per game do we see? How many of those are passing series over run series so the time on the clock doesn't run leaving the Defense more exposed?

There is plenty of blame to go around this year that is for sure but the offense has done very little these past 2 years to help the defense out. Go back to the game last year against Dallas when in the 1st 1/2 the Defense was giving the offense oppertunity after oppertunity and they couldn't take the game over until the final drive and then the Defense provided us the win. This year the Defense is worn down and it is high time the offense pick them up.

Who isn's scoring in the redzone this year? It aint the Defense it's the offense. Take a long hard look at it and I think you will see the Offense has not done enough to put games away early (other than the San Diego Game) and that has as much to do with our losses as anything. Fire B.A. and his questionable play calling!!!

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Yep, another one blaming the offense for the defense not doing their job when it counts.

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Yep, another one blaming the offense for the defense not doing their job when it counts.

Tedious.
I know it makes no sense i just do not understand that logic.
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