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Old 12-11-2009, 07:54 AM   #1
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Default Just Curious - Question for Steeler Fans:

3rd and 1.

1) Do you want to see the team: Shotgun, no RB's, 4 and 5 wide ?

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2) Do you want to see the team: Fullback, Halfback and 1TE and 2 WR ?


I vote #2.

Which do you like for 3rd and 1.

It's my opinion #1 is not Steeler ball. It's not winning ball either.
When you don't run - you don't set the tone as a physical team. You don't wear out the other defense over the game. You lengthen the game, making more opportunities for turnovers. You don't ice the other offense.

I really liked the 05 offense that mixed it up well. But, were a running team.

My opinion.

What's yours ?
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Old 12-11-2009, 08:13 AM   #2
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Most definitely. As is well known around here, I've supported Arians all season long (well - up until last night's debacle) but I have always been totally opposed to his no fullback in the backfield theory.
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Old 12-11-2009, 08:43 AM   #3
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Most definitely. As is well known around here, I've supported Arians all season long (well - up until last night's debacle) but I have always been totally opposed to his no fullback in the backfield theory.
Now you're talkin' .................
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Old 12-11-2009, 08:54 AM   #4
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Default Re: Just Curious - Question for Steeler Fans:

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3rd and 1.

1) Do you want to see the team: Shotgun, no RB's, 4 and 5 wide ?

OR

2) Do you want to see the team: Fullback, Halfback and 1TE and 2 WR ?


I vote #2.

Which do you like for 3rd and 1.

It's my opinion #1 is not Steeler ball. It's not winning ball either.
When you don't run - you don't set the tone as a physical team. You don't wear out the other defense over the game. You lengthen the game, making more opportunities for turnovers. You don't ice the other offense.

I really liked the 05 offense that mixed it up well. But, were a running team.

My opinion.

What's yours ?
I would've rather seen #2... I've been angry ever since we became a passing team... I always liked it when we were a RUNNING team.
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Old 12-11-2009, 09:06 AM   #5
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There is no reason to go 5 wide on anything shorter than 3rd and 3... IMO.. who are we... Identity crisis! I disagree... I love seeing ben sling it... but he can do soo.. at such a better rate when we have the run game... Mendenhall can pound the rock.. let him do it.. open holes.. I miss the old PLAY ACTION deep ball to Burress back in 04-05 bens rookie year and our superbowl year. We have the WR's that can get open, PLAY ACTION, use the run to set ben up... hes deadly in that offense
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Old 12-11-2009, 09:19 AM   #6
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3rd and 1.

1) Do you want to see the team: Shotgun, no RB's, 4 and 5 wide ?

OR

2) Do you want to see the team: Fullback, Halfback and 1TE and 2 WR ?


I vote #2.

Which do you like for 3rd and 1.

It's my opinion #1 is not Steeler ball. It's not winning ball either.
When you don't run - you don't set the tone as a physical team. You don't wear out the other defense over the game. You lengthen the game, making more opportunities for turnovers. You don't ice the other offense.

I really liked the 05 offense that mixed it up well. But, were a running team.

My opinion.

What's yours ?
on their 3rd position they did run it on 3rd and 2. Mendenhall came up short...leading to the 4th and inches QB sneak.

So, running on 3rd and short wasn't working either..
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Old 12-11-2009, 09:24 AM   #7
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I'm fine with us being a passing team. The best teams in the league right now have one thing in common - they're all passing teams.

However, being a pass-first offense doesn't mean that you need to totally ignore the run. On 3rd and short, there's no excuse not to have your RB & FB in the game. A run up the middle should work 9/10 times. Hell, even if we ARE going to pass, at least put people in the backfield to make it LOOK like we might run. Lining up 5-wide on 3rd and short is absolutely pathetically stupid.
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Old 12-11-2009, 09:27 AM   #8
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I like the FB RB TE 2 WR sets, but I also like, in passing situations, TE 3 WR and RB, Still gives the play fake option and also gives the screen to the mix.
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Guys (and Gals), it isn't about the formations or the style, it's the play-calling, lack of creativity, and constantly out-thinking yourself. There is a reason BA was fired from a previous OC job people.....

And while I cannot ignore execution as a problem, especially last night, BA and the offensive coaching staff are the ones who put the game plan and adjustments together so the blame still falls on them.
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even-though the game has evolved over the last 30 years into pass-n-tab, sooner-or-later, 'FOOTBALL' is about moving the man directly across from you out of the way, and gaining crucial yardage when the game is on the line:
put the biggest, nastiest players in the backfield, and hammer the oppostion into dust, eliminating their will-to-win
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