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Old 12-28-2009, 10:31 AM   #1
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Default Big Ben's ability to throw the long ball

Ben does everything well except the long ball I/M/O. He underthrows that type of pass more often than not. I'd guess it's not a strength issue, but a mechanic issue on long, arcing passes. When he throws hard passes on a rope, he does not have to judge distance as much as on passes a reciever must run under. Wallace's speed is under-utilized. It also would not hurt Ben to work out a bit more in the off season. He has gained 10-15 pounds since last year.

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Old 12-28-2009, 10:41 AM   #2
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I wonder if that shoulder injury last season took a little bit of mustard off his deep ball. It looked better when he was younger.
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:08 AM   #3
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I wonder if that shoulder injury last season took a little bit of mustard off his deep ball. It looked better when he was younger.
I think you might be right on that one. I remember his rookie year he seemed to have an incredible arm. I think he's still got a good arm but I don't get the impression that he's got the cannon he first gave the impression of possessing.

I was watching some youtube video of Terry Bradshaw yesterday and Terry seemed to throw deep passes almost effortlessly. Off the back foot, moving to the side, falling away...whatever...50 yard ROPES. I had almost forgotten how many deep passes the Steelers used to run in those days.
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:47 AM   #4
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Default Re: Big Ben's ability to throw the long ball

Bradshaw had a cannon, that's for sure.

I hope Roethlisberger's deep ball improves again, especially since his shoulder injury wasn't as severe as it could have been. I think about what happened to Jim McMahon. He had his shoulder destroyed, and he was never the same QB thereafter. I think McMahon could have played well into the '90s if not for that injury. We should be thankful that Roethlisberger's shoulder injury was mild compared to McMahon's. Here's hoping that with some effort, he can get his deep ball back again.
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nononono not true.. remember superbowl XL? that pass to hines that he just chucked after getting away from winstrom? hines had to come back for it and he was maybe 50 yards from the goal line....

AND if u look back at the highlights from that season and that playoff run... his passes to antwan and cedrick wilson were usually short just a tad, making the two receivers have to come back to the ball...
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Default Re: Big Ben's ability to throw the long ball

i disagree. ben has always had an average deep ball; almost always underthrown. only brady, manning and brees throw excellent deep balls, on target, all the time.

the good news is that is the only weakness in his game. that, and maybe forcing the ball when he has too much time to throw.
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has he ever really had a deep ball? Damn near everytime he tosses one, the receiver has to turn most of his body around to go get it
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Default Re: Big Ben's ability to throw the long ball

ben holds on to the ball forever and when he finally decides to throw deep the WR is already deep as all get out and ben just can not throw the ball that deep and still get it past the defender.

this is where ben should spend is offseason - working on getting the ball away more quicky. its almost as if ben waits until the recievers are out of their breaks before he throws.
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I'm happy if that is the biggest complaint we can have against Ben
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I wonder if that shoulder injury last season took a little bit of mustard off his deep ball. It looked better when he was younger.
he had the same problem in college. his long throws are short and hanging. he throws off his back foot rather than following through.

IMO, ken anderson should be let go at the end of the season. how can he not see such a problem in BR's mechanics/fundamentals?
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