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Old 12-28-2009, 05:52 PM   #1
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Default Big Ben goes on offense

Big Ben goes on offense
http://www.timesonline.com/sports/sp...n-offense.html
By: Andrew Chiapazzi
Beaver County Times

Monday December 28, 2009 12:04 AM

PITTSBURGH — In Ben Roethlisberger’s mind, the numbers say it all.

For the first time in team history, the Steelers have a quarterback with more than 4,000 yards passing, a 1,000-yard rusher and a pair of 1,000-yard receivers in the same season.

That, the quarterback says, should be enough to back off critics calling for the head of offensive coordinator Bruce Arians.

“I think what it does is it speaks volumes about this offense and how dynamic and potent it is,” Roethlisberger said. “That’s why I sit there and laugh when people talk about Bruce Arians and his offense. We have one of the most dynamic offenses in the league. I think it’s something people should kind of lay off on about him.”

Roethlisberger is the first Steelers quarterback to go over 4,000 yards for a season, as he has 4,108 after his 259-yard performance on Sunday. But outside of using it as ammunition to defend his offensive coordinator, Roethlisberger says the achievement doesn’t hold much weight for him.

“It’s an honor, but to me it’s not about that,” he said. “It never has been the individual awards, accolades, or honors for me: It’s about this team winning.”
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Roethlisberger went on to say that at this point, even the manner in which a game is won doesn’t matter for a team fighting for its playoff lives.

“We’ve been do-or-die for a while now. We fight to the last minute. I think we’re the cardiac kids or something,” Roethlisberger said. “We’re out here barely winning these games, but a win is a win. It doesn’t matter how you get it.”

This one featured Roethlisberger’s record as well as Rashard Mendenhall earning his first 1,000-rushing yard season with 36 yards on 17 carries. Hines Ward and Santonio Holmes were already over 1,000 yards receiving entering the game. This is also the first time in team history that three receivers have 70 or more receptions in a season, as Heath Miller’s three catches Sunday gave him a career-high 71. Ward has 87 and Holmes has 78 for the year.

“It’s great, statistically,” Ward said. “I won Super Bowls where we didn’t have that. This business is all about wins and losses and that’s all we really focus on. It’s something to look back and reflect on, but just because you have all that doesn’t bring a championship.”
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Old 12-28-2009, 06:00 PM   #2
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“I think what it does is it speaks volumes about this offense and how dynamic and potent it is,” Roethlisberger said. “That’s why I sit there and laugh when people talk about Bruce Arians and his offense. We have one of the most dynamic offenses in the league. I think it’s something people should kind of lay off on about him.”

Yeah it was really potent against the Raiders, Chiefs, & Browns huh? I would like to know how many teams this year didn't score a TD against the Browns.
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Old 12-28-2009, 06:04 PM   #3
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It sounds to me like a last, desparate attempt to save BA from the axe.

Stats are for losers, Ben. And guess what...........?
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Old 12-28-2009, 06:56 PM   #4
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the O is high in yardage but average in scoring.

the game is about points, not real estate.
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“I think what it does is it speaks volumes about this offense and how dynamic and potent it is,” Roethlisberger said. “That’s why I sit there and laugh when people talk about Bruce Arians and his offense. We have one of the most dynamic offenses in the league. I think it’s something people should kind of lay off on about him.”

Yeah it was really potent against the Raiders, Chiefs, & Browns huh? I would like to know how many teams this year didn't score a TD against the Browns.
Sigh.

It was VERY potent against the Raiders..don't you remember them going up and down the field.. or scoring 24 points.. or scoring 24 points against KC?

Why people continue to give our defense a pass for letting over 24 points be scored on them, but berate our offense for scoring the equivalent of 3 TD's and a field goal in a game is beyond me.

And no, the defense scored nor points in either of those games.

24 points... and we lost? Sorry, that is the problem of the defense.
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Old 12-28-2009, 07:23 PM   #6
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the O is high in yardage but average in scoring.

the game is about points, not real estate.
well, we are 13th in scoring. Keeping in mind that includes a game without our QB at the helm AND a horrendous game at the Browns, that is actually pretty dang good.

I am sorry, but to me, 13th in scoring, when we are supposed to have the best defense and defensive coordinator in the NFL, should be WAY MORE than enough points to have gone 14-2 this year (1 game without Ben, and that horrendous Browns game).

Nope. This year, I lay the blame on the defense. NOT on the offense. Arians screwed up the game against the Browns and exposed some real weaknesses that need to be addressed. But our season's failures fall squarely on the shoulders of the defense.

Last year, the offense struggled. The defense saved it throughout the game, but at the end of a game, the offense came THROUGH more likely than not.

This year, our defense struggled, but the offense kept us in the game right up until the end in almost every game. However, the defense DID NOT come through in the end to make the stops necessary.

And don't give me Troy P. and Aaron. Last year, we lost half our line, our top two running backs, our HOF bound wide receiver in the playoffs, our QB was injured, our young stud WR was suspended for a game, and to top it all off, Ben had to get used to a new center...again.

Yet we give a pass to the defense because they lose 2 players in the season?
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Sigh.

It was VERY potent against the Raiders..don't you remember them going up and down the field.. or scoring 24 points.. or scoring 24 points against KC?

Why people continue to give our defense a pass for letting over 24 points be scored on them, but berate our offense for scoring the equivalent of 3 TD's and a field goal in a game is beyond me.

And no, the defense scored nor points in either of those games.

24 points... and we lost? Sorry, that is the problem of the defense.
I've been saying this all season, but people never listen. Apparently the defense is allowed to give up as many points as possible so that the offense needs to score a touchdown on every single possession. Oh, but the offense also needs to eat up about 15 minutes PER drive, so that the defense is never on the field, since you know, they could get tired.

It really is ridiculous. People want to blame Arians for our losses this season because they're too afraid to admit that the Mighty Steeler Defense is the problem and Dick LaBeau's schemes rely a bit too heavily on the two guys who have been missing the majority of this season.

I'll admit, Arians and the offensive coaches have screwed up from time to time (particularly when it comes to running plays) but they helped Ben and the boys put points on the board. The only games where the offense was terrible were the Cleveland game and the second Cincy game.
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The stats for the Steelers offense seem a little misleading to me.

Sure, they do pack on a good amount of yardage, and have a lot of big plays. Yet every game I watch they lack consistency and stall more than any team wants to in the redzone.

They can't run in the redzone either which is a killer. Really, we have a difficult time being consistent running period.
The most consistent offensive game we had this year was against San Diego. All the rest there are bursts and flourishes of greatness, but for every amazing drive BA calls there seems to be a lot of lame ducks.

I'm interested as to what are average 3rd down to go average is too because a lot of games I seem to see Ben and the playmaking receiving corp bailing us out on third and long.
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It's funny,

My friend & I were talking about the fact that we've scored enough points to win in almost every game this season other than three I believe. The reasons why we have lost, I agree, would have to be the defense not getting it done like there were last year. The biggest complaint we have is that we are not imaginative enough when we get into the read zone on offense. That & I think being sloppy on offense are my biggest complaint. If we can just sneak into the playoffs with a healthy Troy, I think we the defense will pick it up though as well.
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The stats for the Steelers offense seem a little misleading to me.

Sure, they do pack on a good amount of yardage, and have a lot of big plays. Yet every game I watch they lack consistency and stall more than any team wants to in the redzone.

They can't run in the redzone either which is a killer. Really, we have a difficult time being consistent running period.
The most consistent offensive game we had this year was against San Diego. All the rest there are bursts and flourishes of greatness, but for every amazing drive BA calls there seems to be a lot of lame ducks.

I'm interested as to what are average 3rd down to go average is too because a lot of games I seem to see Ben and the playmaking receiving corp bailing us out on third and long.
Who cares whether it is 3rd and 1 or 3rd and 20. If the conversion percentage is the same, then who cares how far back it is? Here is where the "Steeler mentality" hits reality. 3rd and 6 as opposed to 3rd and three is a killer in the old way of Steeler football. However, in a pass offense, there isn't much difference between the two.

What I would like to see, is the CONVERSION PERCENTAGE on them.
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