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Old 01-04-2010, 03:43 PM   #1
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Default Fixing the "D"

Okay, obviously we have some things to fix with the defense. But , before we start with the "fire everyone" or "________ sucks" posts, lets keep in mind that we have a top 10 defense and anyone who thinks we need to start from scratch is an idiot.

Here is my take on this, which isnt diffferent than what I have been saying most of the season. Other than the CB position which needs a legit ballhawk...Two things bit us in the ass this year....age and depth.

Traditionally You can have young players without a lot of depth at their positions or you can have older players if you have good depth.
You can NEVER have a lot of older players with little depth behind them. When you try that formula you will ALWAYS get good production in the beginning of the game with a sharp drop off late in the game. (Sound familiar) ...and you will get good stats with fewer wins then the stats indicate.

I think this is what throws us fans off. We see great stats...high defensive rankings and we think....everything is OK
But the reality is that we have incredibly talented older starters who are wearing out by the 4th quarter and we dont have the talent behind them to A) spot relieve them during the game...or B) Competentely play a whole game when our starters go down.

I think the beginning of fixing our defense is youth/depth...and I think the facts point in the same direction.

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Old 01-04-2010, 03:48 PM   #2
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Default Re: Fixing the "D"

All three defensive linemen -- Smith (33), Casey Hampton (32) and Keisel (31) -- are in their 30s, as are Farrior (34), Harrison (31) and safety Tyrone Carter (33). Safety Ryan Clark will be 30 on Oct. 12.
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Old 01-04-2010, 03:52 PM   #3
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Default Re: Fixing the "D"

One of the things Tomlin talked about was getting younger players in for the defense.

I never thought firing everyone was the answer but the DB coach needs to be helped or repplaced. I am sure that Things will be fixed next year and that Nasty Steeler Defense will be back.
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Youth and depth is required in the following positions IMO


Needs immediate attention

1. FS - Clark will not be around forever and no-one is behind him ( priority area IMO)
2. SS - Troy is a stud with a very slow veteran behind him. Time to get young at SS backup
3. ILB - Next year may need to be Timmons and Fox. Youth and depth is needed behind them
4. OLB - wouldnt hurt to have a look at who is behind the NFL's best OLB duo. If one goes down there is potentially a huge drop off for an extended period.

Unsure
5. NT - all depends on Casey's status. The Franchise tag is not what Casey seeks. Young vs Old ....not sure
6. DE - with Hood, Harris, Eason behind Smith and Keisel it all depends on their longevity. Might be OK for a year but will need to get younger at some point
7. CB - this group will be very young next season with no Townsend. I think they can look better with a true cover FS behind them with good speed and range.

The youth / depth policy would also help out ST's. This unit needs to have a better age balance to it IMO
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Default Re: Fixing the "D"

its all solved by bringing back KUHN to play Full Back

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oh my bad...defense...um...

Um...well we got pretty good LBs...ok Dline...we need a Free Safety for depth, a Corner that can actually cover a guy man up and not sit 10 yards off every play, and tackling would be nice.
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Default Re: Fixing the "D"

One of the things Cowher used to talk about was having no place for CB's who were afraid to tackle and make hits.

I've seen Gay make some of the most pathetic attempts at tackling I've seen from anybody this year. Is it from the rule changes? Or is Gay afraid to make a hit? Did getting run over by Peterson shake the balls off of him?

Imposing fear is a major part of a great defense. The receivers need to be AFRAID to catch the ball.

We had that last year, and you can't argue for one second that losing Troy affected that aspect of it.

I hate to see players get hurt, but I loved the hit Ike put on Pat White. That, my friends, is football! We haven't seen many bone-jarring hits from our D this year.
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Youth and depth is required in the following positions IMO


Needs immediate attention

1. FS - Clark will not be around forever and no-one is behind him ( priority area IMO)
2. SS - Troy is a stud with a very slow veteran behind him. Time to get young at SS backup
3. ILB - Next year may need to be Timmons and Fox. Youth and depth is needed behind them
4. OLB - wouldnt hurt to have a look at who is behind the NFL's best OLB duo. If one goes down there is potentially a huge drop off for an extended period.

Unsure
5. NT - all depends on Casey's status. The Franchise tag is not what Casey seeks. Young vs Old ....not sure
6. DE - with Hood, Harris, Eason behind Smith and Keisel it all depends on their longevity. Might be OK for a year but will need to get younger at some point
7. CB - this group will be very young next season with no Townsend. I think they can look better with a true cover FS behind them with good speed and range.

The youth / depth policy would also help out ST's. This unit needs to have a better age balance to it IMO
I agree with you on most points. Safety help and DL is a priority IMO. I saw a mock draft today that had ILB Spikes of Florida falling to us in round 2. With us getting Mays of SC in round 1. That would be interesting.
Hood is gong to be a stud, and I believe Harris will be another Keisel. If we don't retain Casey we will have to get a NT in the 1st round.
I think although we will be young at CB, either Burnett or Lewis will beat out gay with the other taking the nickel back. I think both those kids are going to be very good.
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I hate to see players get hurt, but I loved the hit Ike put on Pat White. That, my friends, is football! We haven't seen many bone-jarring hits from our D this year.
if williams didnt have the reflexes of a cat, ryan clark woulda absolutely destroyed him.

the sack timmons put on pat white was probably the most bone crushing sack of the year.

i remember ryan clark practically begging for the opportunity to earn a fine, earlier this season.

t. carter has even made some nice hits. maybe part of the problem is more players going for the money shot as opposed to the wrap up tackle.

1 thing i do know is john madden paying the steelers the compliment last season of being the hardest hitting and best tackling team he has ever seen (and like him or hate him, he has seen a TON of football).

he reiterated this compliment earlier in the season when we were good at 6-2. dont know what happened after that point other than the reality that troy would be lost for an extended period of time and perhaps the most dominant defense in the league last year, perhaps thought they could just simply coast through a 5 game stretch vs nfl piss-ants until he got back.
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