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Old 01-04-2010, 08:20 PM   #1
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Global warming video



Want to see something really, really well done to counter Al Gore and the global warming advocates? This video by John Coleman, a meteorologist who is Co-founder of the Weather Channel is really worth watching. It's the best I've seen. No matter how you feel about global warming, this a viewpoint that deserves to be considered. The long term geo-historical record is impossible to deny, although global warming advocates have done their best to hide it. Here it is:


http://www.kusi.com/home/78477082.html?video=pop&t=
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Old 01-04-2010, 09:05 PM   #2
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John Coleman is not the best presenter, but he's spot on with the message!

It's funny that Al Gore was worth around a $1M when he started his Global Warming Campaign and now through his "nonprofit, for the good of the people" BS crusade he is worth over a $100M.
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Noticing the catch-phrases and buzz words Mr. Coleman uses in the video, I doubted his scientific "research" right away. Scientists like to stay away from political buzzwords - like "politically correct" as a derogatory term or a meteorologist accusing 97 percent of climatologists that they are involved in a "scam." Strong words.

But I listened to the whole thing - and then read some of his stuff and... It turns out there is no scientific research involved here - just plain old opinion from a weatherman! This is a guy who predicts weather - a meteorologist, not a climatologist - big difference.

This is a great break down of how (no matter what you think of Al Gore) Mr. Coleman is expressing his opinion - not scientific fact - to try to debunk Global Warming. Opinion is a very weak argument when talking about science.

"Striving in science is done by success in peer review and consistent replicable assessment, study, modeling and method. Not by trickery or deceit. The scientific process of peer review is very successful at producing reliable results for public and policy makers to assess when examined in context with relevance.

Mr. Coleman is stating his opinion as factual and without doubt.

He is not a climatologist and in review of his supposed research on the matter, one finds that he relies on non-scientific and even special interest web sites to support his conclusions.


http://www.uscentrist.org/about/issues/environment/john_coleman
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Noticing the catch-phrases and buzz words Mr. Coleman uses in the video, I doubted his scientific "research" right away. Scientists like to stay away from political buzzwords - like "politically correct" as a derogatory term or a meteorologist accusing 97 percent of climatologists that they are involved in a "scam." Strong words.

But I listened to the whole thing - and then read some of his stuff and... It turns out there is no scientific research involved here - just plain old opinion from a weatherman! This is a guy who predicts weather - a meteorologist, not a climatologist - big difference.

This is a great break down of how (no matter what you think of Al Gore) Mr. Coleman is expressing his opinion - not scientific fact - to try to debunk Global Warming. Opinion is a very weak argument when talking about science.

"Striving in science is done by success in peer review and consistent replicable assessment, study, modeling and method. Not by trickery or deceit. The scientific process of peer review is very successful at producing reliable results for public and policy makers to assess when examined in context with relevance.

Mr. Coleman is stating his opinion as factual and without doubt.

He is not a climatologist and in review of his supposed research on the matter, one finds that he relies on non-scientific and even special interest web sites to support his conclusions.


http://www.uscentrist.org/about/issues/environment/john_coleman
Ummmm K.....We'll all take al gores word as gospel. Global warming = junk science, manipulated crap in, manipulated crap out.
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Noticing the catch-phrases and buzz words Mr. Coleman uses in the video, I doubted his scientific "research" right away. Scientists like to stay away from political buzzwords - like "politically correct" as a derogatory term or a meteorologist accusing 97 percent of climatologists that they are involved in a "scam." Strong words.

But I listened to the whole thing - and then read some of his stuff and... It turns out there is no scientific research involved here - just plain old opinion from a weatherman! This is a guy who predicts weather - a meteorologist, not a climatologist - big difference.

This is a great break down of how (no matter what you think of Al Gore) Mr. Coleman is expressing his opinion - not scientific fact - to try to debunk Global Warming. Opinion is a very weak argument when talking about science.

"Striving in science is done by success in peer review and consistent replicable assessment, study, modeling and method. Not by trickery or deceit. The scientific process of peer review is very successful at producing reliable results for public and policy makers to assess when examined in context with relevance.

Mr. Coleman is stating his opinion as factual and without doubt.

He is not a climatologist and in review of his supposed research on the matter, one finds that he relies on non-scientific and even special interest web sites to support his conclusions.


http://www.uscentrist.org/about/issues/environment/john_coleman
Well, Peer review is a red herring. Why? Because the only things that are allowed in peer review work, are those articles which subscribe to the foundational agreements of the peers. Thus, no peer review work arguing against global warming will be found in peer reviewed journals on global warming.

And I am sorry, but at this point, science is just as much the application of philosophy as "observable data".
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Noticing the catch-phrases and buzz words Mr. Coleman uses in the video, I doubted his scientific "research" right away. Scientists like to stay away from political buzzwords - like "politically correct" as a derogatory term or a meteorologist accusing 97 percent of climatologists that they are involved in a "scam." Strong words.

But I listened to the whole thing - and then read some of his stuff and... It turns out there is no scientific research involved here - just plain old opinion from a weatherman! This is a guy who predicts weather - a meteorologist, not a climatologist - big difference.

This is a great break down of how (no matter what you think of Al Gore) Mr. Coleman is expressing his opinion - not scientific fact - to try to debunk Global Warming. Opinion is a very weak argument when talking about science.

"Striving in science is done by success in peer review and consistent replicable assessment, study, modeling and method. Not by trickery or deceit. The scientific process of peer review is very successful at producing reliable results for public and policy makers to assess when examined in context with relevance.

Mr. Coleman is stating his opinion as factual and without doubt.

He is not a climatologist and in review of his supposed research on the matter, one finds that he relies on non-scientific and even special interest web sites to support his conclusions.


http://www.uscentrist.org/about/issues/environment/john_coleman
True, he is stating an opinion same as the environmentalists. It also is a fact that our temperatures have been fluctuating up and down forever, without our impact.

The Carbon Footprint is total BS. Scientists from New Zealand recently equated the carbon footprint of a medium sized dog to that of owning an SUV (driving 6,200 miles a year). Now I gotta get rid of my Yukon and my dog, whats next????
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True, he is stating an opinion same as the environmentalists. It also is a fact that our temperatures have been fluctuating up and down forever, without our impact.

The Carbon Footprint is total BS. Scientists from New Zealand recently equated the carbon footprint of a medium sized dog to that of owning an SUV (driving 6,200 miles a year). Now I gotta get rid of my Yukon and my dog, whats next????
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It's funny that Al Gore was worth around a $1M when he started his Global Warming Campaign and now through his "nonprofit, for the good of the people" BS crusade he is worth over a $100M.
It's all about "green".
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1230184221.htm

No Rise of Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide Fraction in Past 160 Years, New Research Finds
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We're up to about 2 feet of global warming in the snowbelt 15 miles North of me, with another 6 inches on it's way today...also, record low temperatures for 2/3rds of the US for this whole week.
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