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Old 01-18-2010, 02:05 PM   #1
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Default Better Enjoy the 2010 season while you can.

According to Peter King, the labor talks aren't looking too hot.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...17/mmqb/1.html

The negotiations for a new labor agreement couldn't be going any worse.

If the past few days, I've spoken to sources on both sides of the labor talks, and I've come to the conclusion that it'll be an upset if there isn't a work stoppage that either delays or cancels the 2011 season. Many of us in the media have speculated about the chances for a lockout and predicted one is coming, but the total lack of progress over the nut issue in 11 bargaining sessions tells me unless there's a sea-change by one side or the other, you'd better savor the 2010 season because it could be the last football we see for a while.

At the core of the problem is ownership's demand for players to bear an equal part of the cost for stadium construction, debt service and upkeep -- and the players saying it's not their problem. In NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith's recent e-mail to player representatives, he startled player leaders by saying ownership wanted to cut player compensation by 18 percent per year in the new CBA.


An incompetant commish putting flash over substance, obsession with a market that could care less about our football, dumb owners paying a boatload for unproven rookies, Greed, plenty of blame to go around if this falls out and we're without a 2011 season.
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Old 01-18-2010, 02:13 PM   #2
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DeMaurice Smith isn't helping helping things. He's a DC beltway insider, friendly with Obama and Eric Holder, and was (yick!) a trial lawyer prior to this. The NFLPA hired a pit bull with this guy, and he'll make this process long and difficult.
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Old 01-18-2010, 02:30 PM   #3
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Considering the blithering idiot that is currently running the NFL and who is ostensibly spearheading negotiations on behalf of "Management" (owners), I pretty much kissed the 2011 season goodbye to a lockout when the owners opted out of the CBA almost two years ago.
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Wow, they're all feeding at the fattest trough in the history of organized sports, and they STILL find a reason to turn on each other and ruin it all in the process? They must be dumber than I thought.

Of course, given the, uh ... "developmentally disabled" state of the league's current leadership, I guess this should come as a surprise to no one.
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According to Peter King, the labor talks aren't looking too hot.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...17/mmqb/1.html



At the core of the problem is ownership's demand for players to bear an equal part of the cost for stadium construction, debt service and upkeep -- and the players saying it's not their problem. In NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith's recent e-mail to player representatives, he startled player leaders by saying ownership wanted to cut player compensation by 18 percent per year in the new CBA.
The owner of the company I work for now is building a new company building. I'd laugh in his face if he told me I was to help pay for construction. I have to side with the union on this one. A football stadium doesn't have to be like the monstrosity that Jerry Jones built. There is no need for a 7-story high video monitor above the playing field.
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If Rodger Goodell is the cause of this when he come to england in october he dead :D
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:21 AM   #7
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The owner of the company I work for now is building a new company building. I'd laugh in his face if he told me I was to help pay for construction. I have to side with the union on this one. A football stadium doesn't have to be like the monstrosity that Jerry Jones built. There is no need for a 7-story high video monitor above the playing field.
Wether who's side you're on or not...

It's a major clusterf*ck in the head of the NFL. Like I said, there will be plenty of blame to go around if the NFL goes to the tank much like the NHL and MLB. And the story is all the same.
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Ya the NFL is due sadly. There are always idiots in the group and with this dumb a$$ running the league we are in no shape to get for a new labor agreement. Get ready its coming.
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I really think that the owners have let this get out of hand. I think the players, Especially the Rookies are making way too much money. But I do think that the owners should get a little more of the money that what they have been getting, but Not the 18% that they are demanding... thats crazy. A rookie salary cap has got to be established for alot of reasons. Alot of the Rookies and they are very UnProven are making alot more money than the 5 year veterans that are superstars.. and thats Not Right.
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1. The new head of the union seems like a guy that doesn't want to make concessions for the sake of getting a deal done. He wants all or nothing for the players, and the owners aren't having that, nor should they. I think if he were willing to concede somewhat, the owners would be willing to also.

2. In no way should the players have to help pay for the construction of new stadiums. The players will play in whatever is provided for them. The owners want new stadiums to generate new income. That's not the problem of the players, that's the problem of owners and cities/states.

3. Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder are bad for the NFL. They don't have the NFL in mind, just themselves. They want the NFL to turn into MLB where only a select few teams have the ability to sign the big-name free agents (Dallas=Yankees, Washington=Red Sox) and then the rest of the league is left with mid-range to bad players to pick from. They want the revenue sharing system gone and they want the salary cap gone.

4. The union says once the salary cap is gone, it won't come back. They also don't want a salary cap/slotting system for rookies. Both of these are stupid ideas. The salary cap is part of what makes the NFL exciting because it levels the playing field. In the NBA you can go above the salary cap, you just have to pay the luxury tax. MLB doesn't have a salary cap, just a luxury tax threshold.

The union doesn't represent college players. So why are they so against a rookie salary cap/slotting system. The top 10 rookies take up so much of the team's salary cap it makes it so hard for the teams to really build. Matthew Stafford should not be making more than Brett Favre, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning. A rookie cap system would make sure that the veterans get the piece of the pie they deserve, not rookies who have never taken even a preseason game snap.

5. A lockout would really hurt the NFL's image. The NBA has just now just started to really recover from their last work stoppage. In the current economy, the look of billionaire owners bickering with millionaire athletes looks even worse. People today are out of jobs, losing their homes, losing their vehicles, and losing their families. Do I put food on the table this week or do I pay the rent/house payment/electric/gas/car payment/auto insurance? If the NFL stops play because the rich athletes and owners can't come to an agreement in how much of the huge NFL pie they get, a lot of people won't come back.

I may end up being one of those people myself, and I love my Steelers and my football. But I don't have medical insurance because I can't afford it. But the owners and players are fighting over money, and it honestly makes me sick.
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