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Old 02-04-2010, 04:20 PM   #11
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Hey guys I have a question. Jared Odrick DT Penn ST, is 6'4" and 301, Has a high motor, is similar I think to Jay Ratliff in size. Reportedly, Matt McGuire from Walterfootball.com says he has the frame to handle about 15 more lbs of weight. Could this guy be a good candidate to play some NT for us as well as DE if he can get up to about 315 to 320 lbs? Providing this report is accurate.
No. He'd still be pretty lean at 6-4 320. You usually want your NTs pretty short, around 6'2. And if you just look at the guy, you can tell he isn't big enough for it. Fine as an end, best as a 4-3 up tackle, but not as a NT. At least, not for our system. The Cowboys run a different type of 3-4 than we do.
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Old 02-05-2010, 08:41 AM   #12
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I wouldn't doubt that he might be able to handle NT duties (the guy is a fantastic player), but I'd prefer to keep him at his current size and weight put him at DE in the 3-4 scheme... Similar to what we're doing with Hood.
I'd say you and Chidi29 are both right and he would best serve the Steelers as a DE only, Thanks!
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San Fran has two positions of need that are greater than NT. They have Aubrayo Franklin who played some pretty good ball, but they might decide to find an upgrade or a NT to rotate in and out..
They HAVE to address RT in the first. There is a chance that if the right guy fell to them they might put him at LT and move Staley to RT.
They also need a legit 3-4 OLB to get some sort of pressure on the QB.

I'm not sure if they will go NT until at least the 2nd-3rd rounds
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Old 02-05-2010, 12:19 PM   #14
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San Fran has two positions of need that are greater than NT. They have Aubrayo Franklin who played some pretty good ball, but they might decide to find an upgrade or a NT to rotate in and out..
They HAVE to address RT in the first. There is a chance that if the right guy fell to them they might put him at LT and move Staley to RT.
They also need a legit 3-4 OLB to get some sort of pressure on the QB.

I'm not sure if they will go NT until at least the 2nd-3rd rounds

I think Denver and Miami would be the biggest risks if you're pulling to get Dan Williams. Browns and Chiefs are too far up to be getting good value.

Miami is my biggest concern. they could use OLB help as well. Maybe they'd bite on Graham or Kindle. I wouldn't if I were them though.
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I think Denver and Miami would be the biggest risks if you're pulling to get Dan Williams. Browns and Chiefs are too far up to be getting good value.

Miami is my biggest concern. they could use OLB help as well. Maybe they'd bite on Graham or Kindle. I wouldn't if I were them though.
Miami has Jason Ferguson (coming off a surgery) and a promising NT in Paul Soliai. You brought up a good point about them needing a 3-4 OLB and I think that Kindle is a good bet at #12.

Wow...I really shouldnt know all this.

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there's a common misconception on this board that the few NT prospects in the draft are strictly only 3-4 prospects. have no doubt that 4-3 teams will ALSO be looking at these guys.
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San Fran has two positions of need that are greater than NT. They have Aubrayo Franklin who played some pretty good ball, but they might decide to find an upgrade or a NT to rotate in and out..
They HAVE to address RT in the first. There is a chance that if the right guy fell to them they might put him at LT and move Staley to RT.
They also need a legit 3-4 OLB to get some sort of pressure on the QB.

I'm not sure if they will go NT until at least the 2nd-3rd rounds
franklin is also up for free agency and he's on the wrong side of 30.. they may wanna go younger and cheaper just like the steelers may be doing..

here's a list of free agent tackles...
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there's a common misconception on this board that the few NT prospects in the draft are strictly only 3-4 prospects. have no doubt that 4-3 teams will ALSO be looking at these guys.
Great point.

In the latest draft I was fiddling around with...I have us passing on a NT in the first and the Vikings taking Dan Williams as the replacement for the soon to be retireing Pat Williams.
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franklin is also up for free agency and he's on the wrong side of 30.. they may wanna go younger and cheaper just like the steelers may be doing..

here's a list of free agent tackles...
http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2010DT.php
Granted....They have the same problem as us (UFA/age).

But then again...I'm not convinced that we grab a NT in the first and may also wait for a Cam Thomas or Torrell Troupe
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Granted....They have the same problem as us (UFA/age).

But then again...I'm not convinced that we grab a NT in the first and may also wait for a Cam Thomas or Torrell Troupe
well you've heard the old saying "you snooze, you lose".... i just don't think, any of the 4 legit prospects will be on the board by our 3rd pick...write it down, you heard it here first...
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