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Old 02-05-2010, 02:10 PM   #21
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well you've heard the old saying "you snooze, you lose".... i just don't think, any of the 4 legit prospects will be on the board by our 3rd pick...write it down, you heard it here first...
Wouldnt bother me a bit to go with Thomas in the 1st...Troupe in the 2nd...and either OT's Jared Veldheer or Roger Saffold in the 3rd round. (OR Jason Fox ...if he gets cleared medically, after being diagnosed with the irregular heartbeat)
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Old 02-05-2010, 03:01 PM   #22
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Miami has Jason Ferguson (coming off a surgery) and a promising NT in Paul Soliai. You brought up a good point about them needing a 3-4 OLB and I think that Kindle is a good bet at #12.

Wow...I really shouldnt know all this.

I'm pathetic.

Miami is also in need of a #1 receiver. We are talking about Parcells here so defense could take early priority, but if they want a true #1 talent, I would think you probably can't wait past the second. So they could very well go 1. OLB, 2. WR, or vice versa.
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Miami is also in need of a #1 receiver. We are talking about Parcells here so defense could take early priority, but if they want a true #1 talent, I would think you probably can't wait past the second. So they could very well go 1. OLB, 2. WR, or vice versa.
I did a little research on Parcells picks....In all his tenure in the NFL, he has used a #1 draft pick on a WR twice, (Terry Glenn/Keyshawn Johnson)...and has drafted a LBer 5 times: Willie McGinest, LB /James Farrior, OLB/DeMarcus Ware, OLB/Bobby Carpenter, LB/Anthony Spencer, OLB
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I did a little research on Parcells picks....In all his tenure in the NFL, he has used a #1 draft pick on a WR twice, (Terry Glenn/Keyshawn Johnson)...and has drafted a LBer 5 times: Willie McGinest, LB /James Farrior, OLB/DeMarcus Ware, OLB/Bobby Carpenter, LB/Anthony Spencer, OLB
So, I guess I'm not reaching too far. 30%+
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The Jets won't be in the market for a NT for a while, Kris Jenkins isn't that old and they have solid depth guys behind him.

And I'm sure the Patriots drafted Ron Brace to play NT if Vince isn't brought back.
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well you can now add 2 more teams to the list of teams competing for 3-4 players...

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Buffalo is the latest team to attempt to emulate the Steelers.

Washington hired long-time Steelers defensive assistant Lou Spanos as its linebackers coach. Spanos will be reunited with new defensive coordinator Jim Haslett the two worked together with the Steelers.

And like Buffalo, Washington is making the switch to the 3-4 next season.

If Clark, Carter and Eason don't re-sign with the Steelers, Washington could be another potential destination.

The NFL is a copycat league. In 2009, 13 teams played the 3-4 as their base defense. Buffalo and Washington will increase that total to 15.
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well you can now add 2 more teams to the list of teams competing for 3-4 players...
at the Redskins, why hire a 3-4 D coach when you know Haynesworth is a crappy fit and making bank. That team is stupid.
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The Jets won't be in the market for a NT for a while, Kris Jenkins isn't that old and they have solid depth guys behind him.

And I'm sure the Patriots drafted Ron Brace to play NT if Vince isn't brought back.
I took a deeper look into Jenkins. I had originally put him on there because he was 30 and injured.

He's signed for 2 more years. He tore his ACL last year (tore his other one in 2005) so I'm thinking he's still a question mark. If the year is uncapped you have to think the Jets can afford to keep him but who do they have the pipeline? According to ESPN's depth chart the backup is Sione Pouha, who is also 30. Maybe a second tier priority for them.

Good point on Brace as well. Maybe they let Wilfork go then?
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Jared Odrick, Dan Williams, Cam Thomas, Terrell Troupe. If they took Jared in the first the could get one of the others later and use Jared at End. I think Jared would rotate Immediately. With so many teams using 34 they may have to reach for one later on if they don't take one in the first.
I want to Trade Casey Hampton to KC for their two 2nd round picks. Then we can take Jared in the first and get the DB,OC,NT in the second.
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Jared Odrick, Dan Williams, Cam Thomas, Terrell Troupe. If they took Jared in the first the could get one of the others later and use Jared at End. I think Jared would rotate Immediately. With so many teams using 34 they may have to reach for one later on if they don't take one in the first.
I want to Trade Casey Hampton to KC for their two 2nd round picks. Then we can take Jared in the first and get the DB,OC,NT in the second.
Why would KC ever do that? If they know we're shopping him, they'd rather just wait and try their luck at getting him as a FA than having to give up two first rounders AND giving him a new deal.
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