Net domestic migration into Pittsburgh metro area was POSITIVE in 2009

Gnutella · 03-24-2010, 02:55 AM

In 2009, the Steelers won the Super Bowl, the Penguins won the Stanley Cup, the G20 Summit brought some much-needed publicity to the region -- and more people moved to Pittsburgh than from.

The domestic migration rate in the Pittsburgh MSA was +1,144 between 2008 and 2009, and the international immigration rate was +1,901, for a total net migration of +3,045. There's no information on the number of births in the MSA, but when you add births to the positive domestic and international migration, the number of deaths negates it all, apparently. The actual population change of the MSA was about -400 between 2008 and 2009.

With that said, it's the outlying counties that are responsible for this. We all know that Butler County has been growing, but for the first time in many decades, Allegheny County grew as well, adding 267 people between 2008 and 2009. Without looking at the more detailed census data, my hunch is that Armstrong, Beaver and Fayette Counties all lost a lot of population. Westmoreland County may also have lost a few, but I'm not sure. I think Washington County probably joined Allegheny and Butler Counties in the positive, though.

It's also worth noting that when the Brookings Institute studied Pennsylvania politics in 2008, they noted that Allegheny County was rapidly losing population among both elderly people and white people with no college degrees, but also gaining population among white people with college degrees and all ethnic minorities. Simply put, while the Pittsburgh MSA might still be shrinking, it's also becoming more educated and more diverse in the process -- and possibly even younger too.

Gnutella · 03-24-2010, 03:22 AM

OK, here's the link to the detailed census data. You need Microsoft Excel to view it.

Allegheny County

2008 population: 1,218,227
2009 population: 1,218,494
Change year/year: +267

Armstrong County

2008 population: 68,449
2009 population: 67,851
Change year/year: -598

Beaver County

2008 population: 172,396
2009 population: 171,673
Change year/year: -723

Butler County

2008 population: 183,663
2009 population: 184,694
Change year/year: +1,031

Fayette County

2008 population: 143,289
2009 population: 142,605
Change year/year: -684

Washington County

2008 population: 206,740
2009 population: 207,389
Change year/year: +649

Westmoreland County

2008 population: 362,627
2009 population: 362,251
Change year/year: -376

Pittsburgh MSA

2008 population: 2,355,391
2009 population: 2,354,957
Change year/year: -434

As I suspected, population gains in Allegheny, Butler and Washington Counties were wiped out by population losses in Armstrong, Beaver, Fayette and Westmoreland Counties.

steelerdude15 · 03-24-2010, 11:53 PM

I will be moving to the Burgh in the next couple of years. So excited!

03-25-2010, 10:18 AM

Pittsburgh gets to bolster their reputation off of, Butler county! WHOOO

hahahahaha

03-24-2010, 02:55 AM	#1
Gnutella Starter Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 627 Member Number: 13861 Thanks: 40 Thanked 56 Times in 29 Posts	Net domestic migration into Pittsburgh metro area was POSITIVE in 2009 In 2009, the Steelers won the Super Bowl, the Penguins won the Stanley Cup, the G20 Summit brought some much-needed publicity to the region -- and more people moved to Pittsburgh than from. The domestic migration rate in the Pittsburgh MSA was +1,144 between 2008 and 2009, and the international immigration rate was +1,901, for a total net migration of +3,045. There's no information on the number of births in the MSA, but when you add births to the positive domestic and international migration, the number of deaths negates it all, apparently. The actual population change of the MSA was about -400 between 2008 and 2009. With that said, it's the outlying counties that are responsible for this. We all know that Butler County has been growing, but for the first time in many decades, Allegheny County grew as well, adding 267 people between 2008 and 2009. Without looking at the more detailed census data, my hunch is that Armstrong, Beaver and Fayette Counties all lost a lot of population. Westmoreland County may also have lost a few, but I'm not sure. I think Washington County probably joined Allegheny and Butler Counties in the positive, though. It's also worth noting that when the Brookings Institute studied Pennsylvania politics in 2008, they noted that Allegheny County was rapidly losing population among both elderly people and white people with no college degrees, but also gaining population among white people with college degrees and all ethnic minorities. Simply put, while the Pittsburgh MSA might still be shrinking, it's also becoming more educated and more diverse in the process -- and possibly even younger too.

03-24-2010, 03:22 AM	#2
Gnutella Starter Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 627 Member Number: 13861 Thanks: 40 Thanked 56 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Net domestic migration into Pittsburgh metro area was POSITIVE in 2009 OK, here's the link to the detailed census data. You need Microsoft Excel to view it. Allegheny County 2008 population: 1,218,227 2009 population: 1,218,494 Change year/year: +267 Armstrong County 2008 population: 68,449 2009 population: 67,851 Change year/year: -598 Beaver County 2008 population: 172,396 2009 population: 171,673 Change year/year: -723 Butler County 2008 population: 183,663 2009 population: 184,694 Change year/year: +1,031 Fayette County 2008 population: 143,289 2009 population: 142,605 Change year/year: -684 Washington County 2008 population: 206,740 2009 population: 207,389 Change year/year: +649 Westmoreland County 2008 population: 362,627 2009 population: 362,251 Change year/year: -376 Pittsburgh MSA 2008 population: 2,355,391 2009 population: 2,354,957 Change year/year: -434 As I suspected, population gains in Allegheny, Butler and Washington Counties were wiped out by population losses in Armstrong, Beaver, Fayette and Westmoreland Counties.

03-24-2010, 11:53 PM	#3
steelerdude15 Assistant Coach Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,311 Gender: Male Member Number: 15774 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Net domestic migration into Pittsburgh metro area was POSITIVE in 2009 I will be moving to the Burgh in the next couple of years. So excited!

03-25-2010, 10:18 AM	#4
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