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Old 02-08-2006, 07:08 PM   #31
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Default Re: Stay with us Wiz !

Take this for what it's worth...just my opinion.

I would love to see the Wiz in silver and black. He is exactly what the Raiders need to right the ship. Unfortunately, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

Al Davis is mired in the past. He does not believe in paying a HC. You don't need to worry about the Wiz being offered money he would be foolish to turn down... it aint gonna happen.

The one thing that would bring the Wiz to Oaktown would be control. You don't need to worry about that, either. Al Davis will never give up enough control to entice Wiz to take the job.

I look for Art Shell to get another shot... someone Al doesn't have to pay a lot of money, and even more importent... someone who Al can control. You have no idea how much I hope I am wrong... but I don't think I am.

Unfortunately, there are very few of us Raider fans that seem to be able to take the rose colored glasses off when it comes to Al Davis. He can do no wrong in the eyes of 99% of all Raider fans. I don't know why it so hard to see that Al's way no longer works in today's NFL. I have great respect for Al Davis, but, untill he sees the light, I fear the Raiders will be a mediocre team, at best, for years to come.
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Old 02-08-2006, 07:37 PM   #32
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Take this for what it's worth...just my opinion.

I would love to see the Wiz in silver and black. He is exactly what the Raiders need to right the ship. Unfortunately, I don't think you have anything to worry about.

Al Davis is mired in the past. He does not believe in paying a HC. You don't need to worry about the Wiz being offered money he would be foolish to turn down... it aint gonna happen.

The one thing that would bring the Wiz to Oaktown would be control. You don't need to worry about that, either. Al Davis will never give up enough control to entice Wiz to take the job.

I look for Art Shell to get another shot... someone Al doesn't have to pay a lot of money, and even more importent... someone who Al can control. You have no idea how much I hope I am wrong... but I don't think I am.

Unfortunately, there are very few of us Raider fans that seem to be able to take the rose colored glasses off when it comes to Al Davis. He can do no wrong in the eyes of 99% of all Raider fans. I don't know why it so hard to see that Al's way no longer works in today's NFL. I have great respect for Al Davis, but, untill he sees the light, I fear the Raiders will be a mediocre team, at best, for years to come.



look if al wants him he willl pay secondly you dont no how much power he will give so we will just have to wait an see wont we!
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Old 02-08-2006, 07:53 PM   #33
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look if al wants him he willl pay secondly you dont no how much power he will give so we will just have to wait an see wont we!
I can't really argue with that... you're right, we will have to wait and see. I didn't state anything as fact, did I? I said it was my opinion.

You haven't even been alive for as long as I've been a Raider fan... I think I have a bit more insight, and a better understanding of how Al Davis works than you do... I've been observing it for 38 years, now.
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Old 02-08-2006, 07:57 PM   #34
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ive seen 2 out of 3 raiderfans say any head coaching job is better than an assistants job. tell that to mike tice at less than a mil/year and tell that to g. williams and a. saunders at 2+ mil/year. if davis was smart he would give up control and hand over the reigns to wiz. if the rooneys are smart they will act like d. snyder and give a hefty payraise to wiz to keep him. i dont know what lebeau earns but he is, and has been in the past, the magic to the steelers defense. i really think the rooneys could buy another sb or 2 if they keep these 2 coaches in place. just remember rooneys...THERE IS NO SALARY CAP ON COACHING STAFF!
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Just becuz he interviews doesnt mean he'll go...he sticks it out another year or 2..better jobs will open up for him.

No offense to our raider members, but in all honestly.. The raiders are not a place for a first time head coach to go to.. there are exceptions but you couldnt pay enough to work for Al Davis.
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Raiders fans, I have a gut-feeling Davis senses the time running out, and ESPECIALLY after seeing Pittsburgh rise to the top again after such a long hiatus.

My feeling:

Davis gives Wiz GREAT 1st year money and control. NOT Holmgren-like control, but enough to make him take 15 times what he's making now to jump at the chance to be a head coach. Don't think Wiz is excited? That coulda been any one of us at that airport.
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Old 02-09-2006, 09:48 AM   #37
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Raiders fans, I have a gut-feeling Davis senses the time running out, and ESPECIALLY after seeing Pittsburgh rise to the top again after such a long hiatus.

My feeling:

Davis gives Wiz GREAT 1st year money and control. NOT Holmgren-like control, but enough to make him take 15 times what he's making now to jump at the chance to be a head coach. Don't think Wiz is excited? That coulda been any one of us at that airport.
I really hope you're right. If Al hopes to see another championship before his time is up, he needs to wake up and smell the coffe. He needs to give Wiz enough money and control, even if it goes aginst his beliefs.

Al Davis is a brilliant football guy... I just hope that his great ego can be put aside for the good of the Raiders. We will see.

Al Davis quote... "The greatness of the Raiders, is in their future." Time to practice what you preach, Mr. Davis. Step up, and do the right thing for your loyal fans!
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I say there's NO WAY Whiz goes to Oakland. He just interviewed for the sake of interview experience.
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Just becuz he interviews doesnt mean he'll go...he sticks it out another year or 2..better jobs will open up for him.

No offense to our raider members, but in all honestly.. The raiders are not a place for a first time head coach to go to.. there are exceptions but you couldnt pay enough to work for Al Davis.
I agree. Raiders are for Coaches and thugs who have well-establsihed their coaching and thuggery in the NFL
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Wiz would be making a huge mistake If he takes the HC job in Oakland. Having to deal with Al Davis is reason enough for him not to take the job. That's the last place anybody would want to coach. The guy deserves better.

As for other teams that may be interested in The Wiz, I think he should stick around a year or two with the Steelers. I think LeBeau was hinting to Wiz at the parade that the HC job isn't all what it's cracked up to be at times. It's not an easy leap. Get more time under your belt, look at your options in a year or two and then make the decision.
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