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Old 04-13-2010, 10:12 PM   #11
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you'd be aware that all but 8, 35, and 45 have been substantially accomplished.

8 is now irrelevant, 35 has been severely breached several times and compromised. 45 is a "work in progress".
Sorry Vincent, I don't get it?

Significant progress has been made in 42 of the 45 stated goals of the communist party in the last 50 years?

I thought there were primarily just two political parties in America, democrats and republicans.

So how could this have happened?
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Sorry Vincent, I don't get it?
would you then agree that i am not suprized?

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what exactly has happened? please friend, do tell me that you dont declare the united states of america a communist state? wouldnt you agree that only a fool would believe we are operating under a system where a stalin like dictator rules?

you do know you have the freedom and liberty to run for president in '12 right?

or do you deny this FACT?
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would you then agree that i am not suprized?

what exactly has happened? please friend, do tell me that you dont declare the united states of america a communist state? wouldnt you agree that only a fool would believe we are operating under a system where a stalin like dictator rules?

you do know you have the freedom and liberty to run for president in '12 right?

or do you deny this FACT?
I think he was agreeing with you. I don't think anyone thinks many of thous goals have been meet.

Even though I oppose alot of the policy making in this administration I still believe this is the most free and greatest country in existence.
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Old 04-14-2010, 12:21 AM   #14
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I think he was agreeing with you. I don't think anyone thinks many of thous goals have been meet.

Even though I oppose alot of the policy making in this administration I still believe this is the most free and greatest country in existence.
nope. GBMel will be the second to believe that ALL of those goals have been met. vincent will be the 1st. i will leave it to them to explain why we are no longer the free and greatest country in the world (as that is the stance they have wed).

in the meantime, as crazy as it sounds, since there really are people who think we are a communist nation, i offer them reynolds wrap, to formulate a hat. while the crumpled helmet will work, i would suggest the triangular aluminum "pirate hat" which has stealth properties.

i can understand their worry and dilemma, being that the GOP has failed them and offers no viable alternative (other than the palin/rush ticket in '12).

they are really worried and i cannot blame them, but their vision of only allowing republicans to vote, and only republicans to hold office is contrary to the freedoms and liberties our forefathers envisioned.
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And in case any one else didn't notice (yeah, I know, I'm a perv) 24 and 25 totally offset each other. How can you promote pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV while eliminating all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press. Maybe it's just me, but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Many of the rest, as I've said, are very vague and I'm sure I can find examples for and against both...minus a few.
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The chasm between Vincent's capacity to rationally dissect other people's beliefs and ideas on the one hand (hit or miss doesn't matter), and his inability to turn that scalpel inward on the other... we're talking Pacific Ocean here.

I've met many people from various parties who would qualify - either by self-declaration or by ideology - as communists. I view them in almost exactly the same way I view Christians: I agree on almost nothing with them, yet I can't help but admire their determination and organizational skills.

There is a big difference between communists and Christians: one of them are the overwhelming majority in this country across almost every demographic, while the other doesn't break one percent, being restricted to retired union organizers and a handful of very well-paid Ivy League professors. How this latter group could be achieving such levels of success is truly a marvel.

Where did this list come from, exactly? This sounds like The Protocols of the Elders of Lenin, or some other bogus "source".
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Did the countdown start for the departure of NObama and his Democraps yet ?
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Actually, W. Cleon Skousen is a pretty reputable author who does his homework when he writes something...

I have suggested on multiple occasions that everyone who has any interest at all in these United States should read the first book in the link (I know, you hate Glenn Beck, blahblahblah. Get over it. He only wrote the forward. Skip that part and read the rest of the book). I have yet to read "The Naked Communist" (where this post comes from) or "The Naked Capitalist", but they are on my list


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Sorry Vincent, I don't get it?
Significant progress has been made in 42 of the 45 stated goals of the communist party in the last 50 years?
I thought there were primarily just two political parties in America, democrats and republicans.
So how could this have happened?
The bolsheviks overtook Russia by co-opting a popular revolution. They consolidated their position and power by eliminating all opposition, including the revolutionaries. They held their power through the unrestricted violence of the cheka (NKVD, KGB, FSB, etc, depending on the era). That approach would never be successful in the United States. The strength of our society is that we are an open society, but it is also our weakness. Their agenda is tailored for an open society and they have used that weakness deftly against us.

The donkeys since the time of Wilson have been moving toward global gubmint and socialism. The sovs easily infiltrated and used that party to achieve their agenda.

Norman Thomas, the six time presidential candidate of the socialist party noted that “The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened”. Having witnessed the wholesale donkey adoption of socialism, he said in 1944 "I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform”. Another Thomas observation…"The difference between Democrats and Republicans is: Democrats have accepted some ideas of Socialism cheerfully, while Republicans have accepted them reluctantly"

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nope. GBMel will be the second to believe that ALL of those goals have been met. vincent will be the 1st. i will leave it to them to explain why we are no longer the free and greatest country in the world (as that is the stance they have wed).
in the meantime, as crazy as it sounds, since there really are people who think we are a communist nation, i offer them reynolds wrap, to formulate a hat. while the crumpled helmet will work, i would suggest the triangular aluminum "pirate hat" which has stealth properties.
Tony, you know I didn’t say or even suggest that we are a “communist” country. What I did say was “Well it looks like they've accomplished just about everything on the list. They hadn't envisioned having one of them occupying the White House though”. This is not an aluminum hat perspective. The communist agenda was taken from 1963 Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963 as articulated by the late Rep. Patricia Nordman who was astutely pointing out the dangers of communism in America.

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And in case any one else didn't notice (yeah, I know, I'm a perv) 24 and 25 totally offset each other. How can you promote pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV while eliminating all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press. Maybe it's just me, but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
I think if you reread 24 and 25, and what you wrote about them, you’ll discover that they are supportive of each other.

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There is a big difference between communists and Christians: one of them are the overwhelming majority in this country across almost every demographic, while the other doesn't break one percent, being restricted to retired union organizers and a handful of very well-paid Ivy League professors. How this latter group could be achieving such levels of success is truly a marvel.
It is indeed a marvel, and that 1% were the leaven. It was and is a long term grand strategy. We don’t think in those terms. Try this. The Japanese look at markets in 20+ year terms. They flooded our markets in the 50s and 60s with what we used to call cheap Japanese junk. They established their markets then expanded upward. 50 years later Americans view Japanese products as among the best in the world and line up to pay top dollar for them. That wisdom was not lost on the chicomms, BTW. The sovs took the same approach – incrementalism. Long term. Patience. We slowly adopted their agenda over a century to the point that now people laugh when someone suggests that a Stalinist occupies the White House.

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Where did this list come from, exactly? This sounds like The Protocols of the Elders of Lenin, or some other bogus "source".
Ric, did you even bother to read the first post?

I didn’t post this because I thought it would be embraced, or to gain “popularity”. Most of you are younger and haven’t seen this evolve. You have been fed the gubmint line in public schools. This is a historical perspective that is missing from discourse of the times. If you actually examine each of the 45 points on the agenda against what has happened over the last century, you’ll see where we are in the timeline of their strategy. Much of what is going on today will start to make sense.

For those that lack historical perspective, the pot is about to boil and we are the frog.
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Vince,

While I like to think that it isn't quite as bad as some make it out to be, there is too much evidence to the contrary, especially if you have followed American political history in the 20th century up until today. The fact that the left vehemently challenges these notions as “crazy” or “racist” in the face of irrefutable evidence is actually a sign that there is some truth to this. As if a nerve has been touched. If you were a casual Democrat, you wouldn’t want to admit you were part of this transition, too.

It’s like a battered wife who keeps sticking up for her abusive husband.
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