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Old 04-30-2010, 07:13 PM   #1
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Arizona - WTF? The worst is clearly yet to come. Arizona won't stop until it has trampled on every brown person in it's path. This is f-ed up. No one should have to go through that. I'm hard-pressed to believe that people really think this crap is ok. You should question yourself if you do.

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Teachers that aren’t up to par “may take classes or other steps to improve their English,” and if they still aren’t fluent enough for the state, they will be fired or reassigned.
Who decides what "par" is?

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Arizona - WTF? The worst is clearly yet to come. Arizona won't stop until it has trampled on every brown person in it's path. This is f-ed up. No one should have to go through that. I'm hard-pressed to believe that people really think this crap is ok. You should question yourself if you do.

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Who decides what "par" is?

It is Interesting that you take issue with who decides what "par" is in this situation.......

When the federal government makes decisions to seize what belongs to one group and give it to another to whom it does not even belong, I have not once seen you question the decision making.......

Why?

Do you feel our government is somehow more ethical and honest and less subjective when it comes to wealth redistribution than those who would decide what is "par" in this situation?
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Old 04-30-2010, 07:47 PM   #3
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Who decides what "par" is?
One would hope the Board of Education. Certainly not other teachers.
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Old 04-30-2010, 07:56 PM   #4
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It is Interesting that you take issue with who decides what "par" is in this situation.......

When the federal government makes decisions to seize what belongs to one group and give it to another to whom it does not even belong, I have not once seen you question the decision making.......

Why?

Do you feel our government is somehow more ethical and honest and less subjective when it comes to wealth redistribution than those who would decide what is "par" in this situation?
Hmm. Comparing this with taxes is what's interesting. Scratch that - it's confusing - I cannot make a link with the two. All I can think of is that you're deflecting because you know i'm right.

"Speak what we decide is par for proper American English or we will fire you on behalf of the government"

How will the panel on proper English decide? Will it be with key words like "nucular" or "ya'll?"
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Damn them! How DARE they actually ask teachers to be able to properly speak English! Especially since this is about teachers who are teaching the LEAST fluent students. I guess leftover thinks we should let the least fluent teachers teach the least fluent students?

Actually, to tell the truth, I have NO idea what LOH is talking about most of the time anymore...but I have a guess. Nanny state? Anyone?
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Hmm. Comparing this with taxes is what's interesting. Scratch that - it's confusing - I cannot make a link with the two.
Its a perfectly linear analogy, although it isn't surprising that you can't make the linkage.

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How will the panel on proper English decide? Will it be with key words like "nucular" or "ya'll?"
Using those would probably raise a flag or two, yes.

Why do you find it objectionable that teachers have a suitable command of English? They are, after all, teaching. And why is Arizona such a concern? Do you live there?
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"Speak what we decide is par for proper American English or we will fire you on behalf of the government"
Give us what belongs to you so that we can give it to others to whom it doesn't belong or we will put you in jail on behalf of the government.

...while we line our own pockets and buy votes.....

your right Leftover....no comparison.....
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I'd imagine the people who DECIDE what an accredited teacher is. I would think one would be perfectly happy to require fluency in English as a requirement for teaching but I guess you disagree?
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does this mean spainglish is out?

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I freekin love the left and their staged pictures. "Stop Hate" Oh, boo-hoo. "They are being 'mean' to us". "Mean people suck". And my absolute favorite - "Its not fair".

Composing self. Trying to be serious. Bonnie Fwank face. "Dis is simpwy wepwehensiboo!!!"

Yinz use that word "hate" a lot. What does it mean?
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