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Old 02-09-2006, 07:11 PM   #11
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1st issue - Hampton cannot move into the neutral zoneand remain there as the snap is in progress - he did - offsides
Well. to be technical it's encroachment. Offsides is when there is contact made with the offensive line. And he wasn't either
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Old 02-09-2006, 09:05 PM   #12
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1st issue - Hampton cannot move into the neutral zoneand remain there as the snap is in progress - he did - offsides!

2nd issue - Define immediate - Alexander went to the ground with the full weight of Porter on his shoulder pads - that, my friend, is a horse collar tackle.

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I agree that had Hampton been in the neutral zone, which by defination is between the front and back of the ball, when the ball was snapped, it would've been offsides.



Excuse the small photos, but it appears that Hampton was not in the neutral zone.


Horse Collar - If the NFL rule book stated that a player may not use their full weight on another's shoulder pads while making a tackle, you would be right. But the rules do noy say that. The rules state immediately. You bring up a good point that "immediately" can be interpreted different ways.

Here is Jerry Jones discussing the term "immediately" regarding the horse-collar rule:
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That was a problem Jones had with the rule ? the line between penalties and fines.

"It wasn't clear enough in my mind to officiate," Jones said. "They said there would be very few penalties, it would be more about fines. My thought then was just make it a fine."

At least one of Williams' horse collars in 2004 would not have been a penalty. The key word in the rule is "immediately."

"If you don't immediately jerk them down and they go a couple more yards, it's not a penalty," Jones said. "It's the initial grab. That looked vague enough to me that we should just address it as a fine.

"Obviously, I'm sensitive to this because I saw all of Roy's (horse-collar) tackles. There is a judgment factor ? how much time you hold on [to the jersey collar], the immediacy of it and where it can happen on the field. In the spur of the moment, with the impact it can have on a game, how do you make those kinds of decisions?
http://www.cowboysplus.com/topstoryn...2a80e9589.html

Porter did not immediately jerk Alexander down to the ground. It was a good no call.
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Old 02-10-2006, 06:12 AM   #13
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Great job on the video.

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Well. to be technical it's encroachment. Offsides is when there is contact made with the offensive line. And he wasn't either
You actually got that backwards. Encroachments involves contact.
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I'm not gonna comment on any of the calls, since it is now 6 days old, but good job with the video, i like it.
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How do I get to view a AVI file? It doesn't work on my computer.

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How do I get to view a AVI file? It doesn't work on my computer.

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http://www.divx.com/divx/play/download/?hp3playdl.

This link is courtesy of the man with the videoskillz (cgesolo) and should help you view Avi files.

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Haggans timed the snaps so well, it would have been impossible to call with the eye.

The rest looked legit to this unbiased eye.

Hasselback's low block was a bad call and a great tackle. I think at that point I even started wondering if the refs were going to come off as partial.
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