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Old 02-23-2006, 05:51 PM   #1
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Default Vinatieri a free agent?

The Patsy's failed to use the franchise tag on Adam, who will become a unrestricted free agent on 3/4 if they dont reach a deal by then.
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Old 02-23-2006, 06:07 PM   #2
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Default Re: Vinatieri a free agent?

maybe after the colts sign him the patriots can pick up vanderjact. lol
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Old 02-23-2006, 06:09 PM   #3
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Default Re: Vinatieri a free agent?

I heard the Cowboys might be interested in him.With all the problems and headaches the kicker position gave Parcells last year that might be a good deal for both sides.Also from Sporting News.....The Patriots face an interesting dilemma with K Adam Vinatieri, who will be an unrestricted free agent March 3. Last offseason, the team slapped the franchise tag on Vinatieri. Normally, that tag means the player in question receives a one-year salary equal to the average of the top-five salaries at his position. Unless the player is already the highest paid player at his position -- as Vinatieri was. Then, the player gets a 20 percent raise over the previous season. As a result, Vinatieri made $2,509,000 for 2005. So far, there has been no progress on a new deal for Vinatieri yet if the Pats opt to franchise him again by February 23, they'll pay him $3,010,800. That's a lot of money for a kicker.
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Old 02-23-2006, 06:21 PM   #4
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i hope he goes to Dallas instead of any AFC team
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Old 02-23-2006, 07:04 PM   #5
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Default Re: Vinatieri a free agent?

3 million for a kicker seems unreasonable until you remember that Al Davis is still an NFL owner.

Somebody may pay...
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Old 02-23-2006, 08:45 PM   #6
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Default Re: Vinatieri a free agent?

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3 million for a kicker seems unreasonable until you remember that Al Davis is still an NFL owner.

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Actually Jeff Wilkins, David Ackers,and Niel Rackers all make at least 3 million. Rackers makes 3.8 million.
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Default Re: Vinatieri a free agent?

This is just stupid. I think Vinatieri has proven the value of a dead on in the clutch kicker.
He probably wins you an extra 2 games a year plus a playoff game, maybe the difference between winning or losing a SB. How many players besides the QB has that kind of impact?
need an example? ask Pete Carroll. In Carrolls last year in New England, Vinatieri blew a potential game winning kick at KC and one at home against Buffalo. it was the difference between 8-8 and being a 10-6 playoff team. Carroll gets fired as a failure. Belichick comes in. If Vinatieri doesnt make the 45 yarder in a blizzard......
give him the 3 million.
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This is just stupid. I think Vinatieri has proven the value of a dead on in the clutch kicker.
He probably wins you an extra 2 games a year plus a playoff game, maybe the difference between winning or losing a SB. How many players besides the QB has that kind of impact?
need an example? ask Pete Carroll. In Carrolls last year in New England, Vinatieri blew a potential game winning kick at KC and one at home against Buffalo. it was the difference between 8-8 and being a 10-6 playoff team. Carroll gets fired as a failure. Belichick comes in. If Vinatieri doesnt make the 45 yarder in a blizzard......
give him the 3 million.
You make a damned good point.
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Default Re: Vinatieri a free agent?

Vinatieri has been absolutely amazing for the Patriots - best clutch kicker the game has ever seen.

On the other hand, I dont think you can justify raising a players wages by 20% year-on-year when logic tells you that his skills have to be diminishing with age.

During the salary cap era, the true skills lies in judging a players skill curve and matching it up against his cap hit.

Its a tough call for sure, but then the Pats do excel at making these type of choices.

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Old 02-24-2006, 05:27 AM   #10
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Vinatieri has been absolutely amazing for the Patriots - best clutch kicker the game has ever seen.

On the other hand, I dont think you can justify raising a players wages by 20% year-on-year when logic tells you that his skills have to be diminishing with age.

During the salary cap era, the true skills lies in judging a players skill curve and matching it up against his cap hit.

Its a tough call for sure, but then the Pats do excel at making these type of choices.

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but have they diminished enough to give the luxury of having him up? first time they lose a game because of a kick just wait. If he was an ordinary kicker i would agree. But guys like Brady and Vinatieri have to exceptions to the rule. Who do you replace him with??
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