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Old 02-26-2006, 07:42 PM   #21
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Randle El is one of the most overrated players I've ever seen. I mean, what has he really done? He threw a TD pass in the Super Bowl, other then that....???????

Keep Keisel for sure, he is a lot more fan friendly.
Did you forget his run backs on punts? The fact that he was a quarterback in college also makes him an asset in case something happens to Ben. He can throw the ball as is evidenced in the Super Bowl! If we lose him, I just know that he will come back and haunt the Steelers. I think we should do everything possible to sign him.
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Old 02-27-2006, 08:32 AM   #22
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Did you forget his run backs on punts? The fact that he was a quarterback in college also makes him an asset in case something happens to Ben. He can throw the ball as is evidenced in the Super Bowl! If we lose him, I just know that he will come back and haunt the Steelers. I think we should do everything possible to sign him.
completely disagree. I would LOVE to keep ARE, he's a good talent, but "doing everything to keep him" is way overboard. That is a perfect example of why teams go through such horrible cap issues......they overpay people that are not that valuable. ARE has his value and I'm sure they FO will evaluate it and offer what they feel he is worth to the team, but he defiently is not a "franchise" type player where you NEED to go all out in re-signing him.
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I would LOVE to keep ARE, he's a good talent, but "doing everything to keep him" is way overboard. That is a perfect example of why teams go through such horrible cap issues......they overpay people that are not that valuable. ARE has his value and I'm sure they FO will evaluate it and offer what they feel he is worth to the team, but he defiently is not a "franchise" type player where you NEED to go all out in re-signing him.
I agree 100%
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Old 02-27-2006, 09:07 AM   #24
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completely disagree. I would LOVE to keep ARE, he's a good talent, but "doing everything to keep him" is way overboard. That is a perfect example of why teams go through such horrible cap issues......they overpay people that are not that valuable. ARE has his value and I'm sure they FO will evaluate it and offer what they feel he is worth to the team, but he defiently is not a "franchise" type player where you NEED to go all out in re-signing him.
Obviously, we can agree to disagree! If we lose ARE, just remember your comments about him not being that valuable when he comes back to prove to the Steelers that they were wrong. I did not refer to him as a "franchise player". My question: Why are all the other teams lined up to make him an offer to acquire him if he's not worth much?
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There are not teams lined up to make him an offer. The only two teams I saw were Chicago and Philly. If you consider that a "line", then ok. I'll be more than happy to stick by my comments. We'll see what his numbers are when he's playing in a Chicago or Philly offfense.

You don't "do everything to keep him". You don't break the bank on a WR that's good at punt returns and gadget plays and who's a good third slot WR at best. He's replacable in my opinion. I'm not stating we should not bother giving him an offer, but the Rooney's will not "do everything" in order to keep him around. If your expecting that, your going to be one unhappy individual in the months to come.

A good number of Steeler fans thought this team was going to fall into a dark abyss when Plaxico Burress left.......
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Keisel leaving hurts, and it makes more sense to keep him over the aging Kimo, but the Steelers simply won't overpay their players. Hopefully something can be worked out with him.

Before we collectively jump into the Allegheny, the Steelers lose some FA's every year, and have learned that the best thing to do is go find comparable players who are unhappy on other teams and sign them for reasonable cash. I'm confident that we will come out of this offseason poised to make a run at a repeat.
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There are not teams lined up to make him an offer. The only two teams I saw were Chicago and Philly. If you consider that a "line", then ok. I'll be more than happy to stick by my comments. We'll see what his numbers are when he's playing in a Chicago or Philly offfense.

You don't "do everything to keep him". You don't break the bank on a WR that's good at punt returns and gadget plays and who's a good third slot WR at best. He's replacable in my opinion. I'm not stating we should not bother giving him an offer, but the Rooney's will not "do everything" in order to keep him around. If your expecting that, your going to be one unhappy individual in the months to come.

A good number of Steeler fans thought this team was going to fall into a dark abyss when Plaxico Burress left.......
OK...Just remember your comments. No one expects the Steelers to break the bank to keep him. We'll see who the one unhappy individual will be.
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OK...Just remember your comments. No one expects the Steelers to break the bank to keep him. We'll see who the one unhappy individual will be.
Talk to the Rooney's. I'm sure they will take your "do everything to keep him" advice to heart...lol.

As for being the unhappy one. Personally, I'm already happy knowing the Rooney's are not dumb enough to pay Randle El more money than he's worth.

My point is not about what some expect, it's about you stating that we should "do everything to keep him". All I stated was that if your expecting the Rooney's to pay out of the yazoo for Randle El, your going to be one unhappy individual.

Once again, it's the Plaxico Burress mentality. All is lost, all is lost. lol.
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im soooooooooo glad that were keepin ike taylor we really needed 2 !
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completely disagree. I would LOVE to keep ARE, he's a good talent, but "doing everything to keep him" is way overboard. That is a perfect example of why teams go through such horrible cap issues......they overpay people that are not that valuable. ARE has his value and I'm sure they FO will evaluate it and offer what they feel he is worth to the team, but he defiently is not a "franchise" type player where you NEED to go all out in re-signing him.
i totaly agree ARE is a great player and all but its just way 2 hard 2 keep him we can always find someone decent 2 replace him
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