Someone on Pittsburgh please geta message to Tomlin

[lionslicer]

Originally Posted by whatdoiknow

Sorry guys but all this talk of Brown not being back there cause he is a rookie, or he some how does not have " Sure " hands is complete nonsense. Antonio was maybe the best Punt returner/Kick returner in all of college football for the last 15 to 20 years. And catching a punt in college is absolutely NO different then in the Pros...I mean a Ball is a Ball. The Steelers have a LONG history of letting rookies be their punt returners. And as far as what someone said about " Rico Suave Colclough " being a punt returner, and having fumbling Issues. Well Rico was NEVER a punt returner here. He was on Kick-offs, but that's really it.


Bottom line, Tomlin IS a confirmed Idiot if he keeps El back there. El was washed up as a PR while still in Washington. But this talk about how Steelers don't like to use Rookie PR's is ridiculous.....Willie Reid, Santonio Holmes, Hank Poteat,,Rod Woodson,,hell, Randle El,,ect,,ect,,and ect!


Antonio is an " ELITE " Weapon. Even a better overall player than Emmanuel Sanders will EVER be! He is a Game changer type of returner. And playing El back there over him is the EXACT same thing as starting Thaddeus Gibson at OLB over James Harrison...the EXACT same thing.


Period!!

Actually it is different. Players in the NFL are a lot faster running down the field, a lot of rookies wont call fair catches and tend to get hit as soon as they catch the ball.
Also college special team players are not good tacklers. Think of the worst tackler in the NFL, a college special team player is worse than that. Some coaches put starters on special teams, Polamalu was on special teams when he was the starter, but many don't.

And I'm sure the special teams coach picks who returns. Head coaches would only make a decision in that area if during a game a player had a really bad play. Brown seems to be returning when the team punting is deep in their territory. Randle El is back there when the punt would like land inside the Steeler's 40. Atleast I noticed this in the first 2 games, I really didn't pay attention in the Bucs game.

[Atlanta Dan]

Originally Posted by whatdoiknow

. And as far as what someone said about " Rico Suave Colclough " being a punt returner, and having fumbling Issues. Well Rico was NEVER a punt returner here. He was on Kick-offs, but that's really it.

The ball bounces away from Pittsburgh Steelers punt returner Ricardo Colclough, left, as Cincinnati Bengals' Harana-Daze Jone (44) comes downfield in the fourth quarter of the Bengals 28-20 win of the football game in Pittsburgh on Sunday, Sept. 24, 2006. The Bengals recovered the ball and took the lead with a touchdown on the next play. Steelers' Anthony Smith (27) is at right

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt...=460&width=720

[dupaloop]

HAhahahahaa Someone just got dominated hahahaha

[LukesDad88]

Originally Posted by Atlanta Dan

Thank you for confirming you do not know what you are talking about



The ball bounces away from Pittsburgh Steelers punt returner Ricardo Colclough, left, as Cincinnati Bengals' Harana-Daze Jone (44) comes downfield in the fourth quarter of the Bengals 28-20 win of the football game in Pittsburgh on Sunday, Sept. 24, 2006. The Bengals recovered the ball and took the lead with a touchdown on the next play. Steelers' Anthony Smith (27) is at right

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt...=460&width=720

I've seen plenty of places where that has been confirmed.

Is Sanders active for the Ravens game? If so, there's a good chance Brown won't even be dressed.

[LukesDad88]

Hey, good news! I just ran into Tomlin at the grocery store. I gave him your message just like you asked. Tomlin looked shocked for a couple minutes, then muttered "Field Position......Didn't think of that" and ran out the door, leaving his cart full of Hostess Suzy Q's (I had him pegged for a Ho-Ho man, myself) just sitting in the midlle of the aisle. He then poked his head backthrough the door and hollered "Who told you this again?" And I answered "whatdoIknow". He replied "You sure as heck better know, because I'm basing the whole gameplan off your suggestion!"

So good luck. Win or lose, it's all on your shoulders, now!

[cloppbeast]

Originally Posted by LukesDad88

Hey, good news! I just ran into Tomlin at the grocery store. I gave him your message just like you asked. Tomlin looked shocked for a couple minutes, then muttered "Field Position......Didn't think of that" and ran out the door, leaving his cart full of Hostess Suzy Q's (I had him pegged for a Ho-Ho man, myself) just sitting in the midlle of the aisle. He then poked his head backthrough the door and hollered "Who told you this again?" And I answered "whatdoIknow". He replied "You sure as heck better know, because I'm basing the whole gameplan off your suggestion!"

So good luck. Win or lose, it's all on your shoulders, now!

I know it's just past lunch time, but this is by far the highlight of my day so far.

Thank you for making my day!

[whatdoiknow]

Dan, first of all I never said Rico NEVER returned a punt. He did 1 time as a rookie, and he got I think 13 yards. And that Bengal punt fumble happened in Colclough 3rd year, when he hadn't returned a punt in 3 years since the ONE he had in his rookie year...NOT the same thing. Rico was primarily a Kickoff returner. And my point was that the Steelers have a LONG HISTORY of letting rookies with LESS pedigree at returning punts then Brown has. So this argument that the Steelers don't want a rookie back there taking Punts is a STUPID and ridiculous Point!

[cloppbeast]

Originally Posted by whatdoiknow

So this argument that the Steelers don't want a rookie back there taking Punts is a STUPID and ridiculous Point!

He didn't say the Steelers don't want rookies returning punts, he said Tomlin doesn't want rookies returing punts.

To the best of my memory, this seems correct. I can't remember Tomlin ever having a rookie return punts, except for return specialist Logan. He was only a rookie in the NFL, but had been playing football professionally for a while.

[whatdoiknow]

Tomlin has only been here a couple of years. We already had punt returners at that time, or we didn't take an obvious punt return specialist in any of his drafts before this draft. Bottom line is that Brown is a better weapon back there. And catching a punt in college is no different then catching it in the pros. And Brown has the experience to know that IF a punt is a high hangin punt, he will call for the fair catch. A Vet has no more chance of doing that then a rookie does.

[Atlanta Dan]

Originally Posted by whatdoiknow

Dan, first of all I never said Rico NEVER returned a punt. He did 1 time as a rookie, and he got I think 13 yards. And that Bengal punt fumble happened in Colclough 3rd year, when he hadn't returned a punt in 3 years since the ONE he had in his rookie year...NOT the same thing. Rico was primarily a Kickoff returner. And my point was that the Steelers have a LONG HISTORY of letting rookies with LESS pedigree at returning punts then Brown has. So this argument that the Steelers don't want a rookie back there taking Punts is a STUPID and ridiculous Point!

You said Coclough was "NEVER" a punt returner

In response, I posted a picture of Colclough fumbling the punt in the 2006 Bengals game to which I had referred in my earlier post.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion but not to his own facts