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Old 10-04-2010, 08:48 PM   #11
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Default Re: NFl Network analysts about Steelers/Ratbirds game yesterday

They would have needed about the same yardage to kick a winning field goal as they had for the winning TD. I don't personally think it would have been a good idea. They should have tried a safe pass play or screen to try to get a first down to win the game. That is where the biggest mistake was made. We have great possession receivers in Ward and Miller. I know that it could turn into a pick 6 but that would have been my choice. But if we got Batch sacked in the end zone it is still the same thing as if we did it on purpose. Stupid coaching. We still had a chance in that game if we had a QB who could throw worth crap in crunch time to get to field goal range. Why the stupid punt returner came out of that end zone to make our field position even worse is beyond me. No time goes off the clock if he just kneels down.
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:49 PM   #12
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Default Re: NFl Network analysts about Steelers/Ratbirds game yesterday

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I know it sounds very risky, but I was actually thinking that during the game. In hind sight, we lost the game anyways, so at least taking the safety lets you get a kickoff and potentially make the ravens drive the length of the field (or at least to around the 30). Given the circumstances, it seems to me that it would have been a better option
Tomlin would have been the laughing stock of the league if he had been beat on a field goal there.
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:58 PM   #13
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Default Re: NFl Network analysts about Steelers/Ratbirds game yesterday

I asked this during the game to my family / in laws, etc, in the brief amount of time it took to decide what to do, thinking that it would run more time off the clock before the punt. I was about in favor of it until I realized that if you run it on 4th down for a safety, the clock would stop immediately upon taking a knee, etc....so it would lose its benefit. (We gave it back to them with a minute... I was thinking giving it back with 30 seconds or less, with a punt from the 20, might be worth the risk, since Cundiff isn't exactly money, and he had already missed one....

In the end, decided that yeah...forcing them to score a TD was the safest..... so much for thinking..
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Old 10-04-2010, 09:52 PM   #14
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Default Re: NFl Network analysts about Steelers/Ratbirds game yesterday

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Yeah if you're lead is more than 5 points it makes sense, but with a 4 point lead you lose on a field goal. It would be beyond stupid to do that with a 4 point lead and that much time on the clock.
If they did it and they lost, its stupid, if they did it and the defense shut them down like it was doing, its a good idea. Ravens would have had to get to the 30 to kick to have any chance, conditions sunday weren't in the favor of the kickers at all.
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Old 10-04-2010, 10:08 PM   #15
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Teams actually do this, no matter how much any one thinks its retarded, instead of the ravens starting on the 40 they would have started around their 40 or 35
This actually crossed my mind while we still had possession, but I figured they wouldn't and shouldn't do it because of the score. Up 6 points, Maybe. Up 4 points, no way. I would have bet 9 times out of 10 our D would prevent a team from crossing our goaline, whether it's 70 yards or 40 yards with 1 minute left and 0 timeouts.That's why we ran 3 safe plays and punted.

Had we taken a safety, we would have punted a free kick from behind the 20. Teams usually still get pretty good field position after a safety, say the 30 or 35 yard line. You couldn't have figured the 10 yard holding penalty added to the end of the punt. So the Ravens still would have only needed roughly 40 yards to get in position to win with a field goal.

Our defense is usually bend don't break and gives up a lot of field goal chances, but TD's are rare.

I think the coaches made the right call and even though it didn't work the right play calls running it 3 times. With no timeouts for the Ravens you had to take the extra 45 seconds off the clock.
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If they did it and they lost, its stupid, if they did it and the defense shut them down like it was doing, its a good idea. Ravens would have had to get to the 30 to kick to have any chance, conditions sunday weren't in the favor of the kickers at all.
In other words presuming an average kick and return following the safety you would project the Ravens to take possession of the ball at about their own 30. So by your estimation they would have needed to drive to the Steelers 30 to kick the fg, that would be 40 yard right? So a 40 yard drive to potentialy win the game correct.

Instead by punting even with the bone headed penalty the Ravense took possession at our 41. So in order to win they needed to drive 41 yards and put the ball in the end zone. You see where this is headed yet?

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Default Re: NFl Network analysts about Steelers/Ratbirds game yesterday

Not if they were going to play a prevent defense, lol

I thought it about looking at the end zone, but the penalties hurt us and kept stopping the clock. Thinking run there on 3 plays with the Ravens knowing we would run, probably wasnt going to work.
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Old 10-05-2010, 11:50 AM   #18
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Default Re: NFl Network analysts about Steelers/Ratbirds game yesterday

This is ridiculous. It's far easier to get into FG range than to punch it across the goalline. As the Ravens came down the field the Steelers defense started to compact. That's when the Ravens called the perfect play against the Steelers blitz ... they went max protection and easily pick up our blitzers. Since the Steelers hadn't called many blitzes in that game, it was a pretty good call. Kudos to the Ravens for making the right play call at the right time.

Taking a safety and allowing a team one last drive to kick the game winning field goal is always a bad coaching move.
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Just make the first down and the OL not make penalities.
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Old 10-05-2010, 02:10 PM   #20
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Default Re: NFl Network analysts about Steelers/Ratbirds game yesterday

Hmmm. Take a saftey?

Let me thi...NO.
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