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Old 03-16-2006, 02:37 AM   #1
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Default The Priest restructures.....

Holmes restructured his contract by taking his 2006 salary from $3.75 million to $710,000, giving the chiefs some cap relief, ESPN.com's John Clayton reports. While such a deal is often done by a player who is going to be a June 1st cap casualty, the Chiefs have no plans to cut him.
Holmes is undergoing tests to determine if he can play. He won't know for months and odds are starting to build up that he might have to retire, but the Chiefs plan to keep him on the roster through the season at the $710,000 number, and possibly keep him on the physically unable to return list until he's healthy.
If he's not healthy, the Chiefs don't mind paying him the $710,000 for his past work. If he does comeback, the team can rework the contract later.
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Classy move by the Chiefs.

All the best to the Priest - the greatest undrafted RB ever.

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Classy move by the Chiefs.

All the best to the Priest - the greatest undrafted RB ever.

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damn after your take on duce staley i was sure you would think of this as a huge waste of money, both last year and next. after all wouldnt it be cheaper to spend that $710,000 upgrading their cheerleaders outfits?
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damn after your take on duce staley i was sure you would think of this as a huge waste of money, both last year and next. after all wouldnt it be cheaper to spend that $710,000 upgrading their cheerleaders outfits?
You seem to be struggling with the concept of 'future' and 'past' Tony.

Duce Staley was a waste of money because he spent most of the regular season and all of the post season sat on the sideline runnning the Jerome Bettis fanclub.

That is an example of the past, Tony.

The Chiefs have signed the Priest to a minimum contract for this year, in the hope that he can regain fitness and be a serviceable back-up to Larry Johnson.

That is an example of the future.

Its a reasonably simple concept once you get the hang of it.

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Old 03-16-2006, 12:00 PM   #5
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You seem to be struggling with the concept of 'future' and 'past' Tony.

Duce Staley was a waste of money because he spent most of the regular season and all of the post season sat on the sideline runnning the Jerome Bettis fanclub.

That is an example of the past, Tony.

The Chiefs have signed the Priest to a minimum contract for this year, in the hope that he can regain fitness and be a serviceable back-up to Larry Johnson.

That is an example of the future.

Its a reasonably simple concept once you get the hang of it.

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Holmes restructured his contract by taking his 2006 salary from $3.75 million to $710,000, giving the chiefs some cap relief, ESPN.com's John Clayton reports. While such a deal is often done by a player who is going to be a June 1st cap casualty, the Chiefs have no plans to cut him.
Holmes is undergoing tests to determine if he can play. He won't know for months and odds are starting to build up that he might have to retire, but the Chiefs plan to keep him on the roster through the season at the $710,000 number, and possibly keep him on the physically unable to return list until he's healthy.
If he's not healthy, the Chiefs don't mind paying him the $710,000 for his past work. If he does comeback, the team can rework the contract later.

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i think youre struggling with the concept and your reading comprehension skills (or lack thereof) arent helping you any. where does it say anything about him being a servicable back up? or did you read in between the lines and get that out of this sentence: "odds are starting to build up that he might have to retire"?

i love your logic though. if any player gets hurt they are a waste of money (unless of course its bruschi or brady)

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I am thinking/hoping that much of the reason Duce was in his gray sweatsuit most of the year (well he did get 75 or so yards and he did dress for the superbowl) is because the coaching staff was dedicating much of the year to Bettis and that Duce will make an attempt to fill Bettis' shoes (that is not gonna happen). Noone can fill his shoes in my mind.
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Holmes restructured his contract by taking his 2006 salary from $3.75 million to $710,000, giving the chiefs some cap relief, ESPN.com's John Clayton reports. While such a deal is often done by a player who is going to be a June 1st cap casualty, the Chiefs have no plans to cut him.
Holmes is undergoing tests to determine if he can play. He won't know for months and odds are starting to build up that he might have to retire, but the Chiefs plan to keep him on the roster through the season at the $710,000 number, and possibly keep him on the physically unable to return list until he's healthy.
If he's not healthy, the Chiefs don't mind paying him the $710,000 for his past work. If he does comeback, the team can rework the contract later.

i think youre struggling with the concept and your reading comprehension skills (or lack thereof) arent helping you any. where does it say anything about him being a servicable back up? or did you read in between the lines and get that out of this sentence: "odds are starting to build up that he might have to retire"?
Tony, Tony, Tony.

My point is a simple one.

The value the Chiefs are going to get from the outlay of $710K is undecided because we dont know how the Priest will perform in 2006/7.

We do know that Duce Staley spent most of last year sat on the sidelines, for a much larger slice of money - which is fact.

At this point we can only guess what sort of value $710K gives the Chiefs next year.

Just accept it - Duce Staley was bad value for money last year.

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living- you know why they didnt bring duce staley back in once he was ready to go? the same reason the patriots didnt bring bledsoe back in, in 2001. pretty easy concept to understand once you get used to it. but bledsoe was a waste of money right? of course it was especially if you choose to ignore him coming in to save the bradyless pats in the afcc game.

insurance is always a waste of money until you get in an accident or have to file a claim. you are familiar with insurance policies arent you? there are cheap ones and expensive ones. to walk you through slowly (cause i know your next remark will be "whats insurance have to do with this?") i am comparing bledsoe and duce to expensive insurance policies who werent brought back to fix something that wasnt broken.
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Just accept it - Duce Staley was bad value for money last year.

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you mean like half the pats roster? i guess willis mcgahee was a terrible signing and draft pick. look at all the money wasted on carson palmer to carry a clipboard for a whole year.
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living- you know why they didnt bring duce staley back in once he was ready to go? the same reason the patriots didnt bring bledsoe back in, in 2001. pretty easy concept to understand once you get used to it. but bledsoe was a waste of money right? of course it was especially if you choose to ignore him coming in to save the bradyless pats in the afcc game.

insurance is always a waste of money until you get in an accident or have to file a claim. you are familiar with insurance policies arent you? there are cheap ones and expensive ones. to walk you through slowly (cause i know your next remark will be "whats insurance have to do with this?") i am comparing bledsoe and duce to expensive insurance policies who werent brought back to fix something that wasnt broken.
Interesting Patriots example.

1a. Drew Bledsoe was the undisputed starter for the Patriots.

1b. Jerome Bettis was in the last year of his career and was used exclusively as a short yardage pounder.

2a. Tom Brady was a 6th round project.

2b. Duce staley was a high profile FA signing who was intended to be the focal point of the running game.

3a. Tom Brady took the place of an injured Bledsoe and played so fantastically well that he kept the job, despite Bledsoe returning to full health.

3b. Jerome Bettis compiled 350 yards over the whole season - Duce Staley didnt play another down after he got injured.


The Brady/Bledsoe situation is not really very similar to the Bettis/ Staley one at all.

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