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Old 03-17-2006, 01:42 AM   #21
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Is that actually the message you got by reading tony's post? Can we say misinterpretation? (I know it's a long word, try sounding it out.)

As for who is the better coach, it's a matter of opinion in the end. But here's my 2 cents:

The mark of a good coach is NOT how many championships they win. It is doing the most with the players they have, and managing the game to their advantage.

I'm not saying Bill B. isn't an above average coach, but come on, it didn't take a coaching genius to win 3 rings with those Pats teams.

Yes, Cowher lost his first Super Bowl, but there isn't a coach in the league that could have taken the '95 Steelers that far.

And when it comes to game management, I refer you to The Jaw's record when holding an 11 point or more lead...

Okay, I'm done now...
Well everyone is welcome to their opinion I guess - I happen to think that SB rings count for a little more in the real world than your 2 cents.

Maybe you should go ahead and tell fans across the country that they should forget about winning the SB - it all comes down to MattsMe's judgement on how they do with the players they have available - maybe they should have a special trophy for that one aswell?

Im pretty sure alot of coaches have a great record when leading by 11 points or more - the key is to get 11points ahead in 3 or 4 consecutive post-season games and stay there.

Im sure those Pats teams will be glad to hear that you rate them so highly that they dont even really need to be coached to win 3 out of 4 SB's.

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Old 03-17-2006, 03:19 AM   #22
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Default Re: The Priest restructures.....

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Well everyone is welcome to their opinion I guess - I happen to think that SB rings count for a little more in the real world than your 2 cents.
They do count for more in the real world. That is why I called it My Opinion.

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Maybe you should go ahead and tell fans across the country that they should forget about winning the SB - it all comes down to MattsMe's judgement on how they do with the players they have available - maybe they should have a special trophy for that one aswell?
No, for fans across the country, it does not all come down to my judgement. That is why I called it My Opinion.

It is an opinion on what constitutes a good coach. NOT on what each team's -or each coach's- goal should be. Nor is it an opinion on what fans should want their team to accomplish each seaon. The fans, coaches, and players want the ring at the end of the season, and rightfully so. I certainly do.

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Im pretty sure alot of coaches have a great record when leading by 11 points or more -
Yes, I'm sure they do too. But NONE have Cowher's record.

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Im sure those Pats teams will be glad to hear that you rate them so highly that they dont even really need to be coached to win 3 out of 4 SB's.
I said it didn't take a coaching genius to win with those teams. The difference between not needing a coaching genius and not needing to be coached is something that even the most casual observer of sports wouldn't miss. Yet somehow you did.

I don't need you to agree with me, I actually welcome criticism and differing opinions. I'm not above changing my mind on anything. But you are disagreeing with things that were never written, and criticizing opinions that were never given.

I've been reading this forum for a while now, and I've noticed a sad little pattern in your posts. This is yet another example of you putting things in people's mouths and changing what they wrote in subtle, and sometimes not so subtle, ways to better support your misguided conceptions. I doubt you will see it that way, as this has probably become seond nature to you by now, and is not done with conscious effort on your part. I'm sure it serves you well in other areas of your life. But personally I find it transparent and annoying. It is also an indication of something.....nevermind, this isn't the place.

I'll leave it open to you for the last word, I know that's an important to you. Goodbye.
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Old 03-17-2006, 07:28 AM   #23
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They do count for more in the real world. That is why I called it My Opinion.



No, for fans across the country, it does not all come down to my judgement. That is why I called it My Opinion.

It is an opinion on what constitutes a good coach. NOT on what each team's -or each coach's- goal should be. Nor is it an opinion on what fans should want their team to accomplish each seaon. The fans, coaches, and players want the ring at the end of the season, and rightfully so. I certainly do.



Yes, I'm sure they do too. But NONE have Cowher's record.



I said it didn't take a coaching genius to win with those teams. The difference between not needing a coaching genius and not needing to be coached is something that even the most casual observer of sports wouldn't miss. Yet somehow you did.

I don't need you to agree with me, I actually welcome criticism and differing opinions. I'm not above changing my mind on anything. But you are disagreeing with things that were never written, and criticizing opinions that were never given.

I've been reading this forum for a while now, and I've noticed a sad little pattern in your posts. This is yet another example of you putting things in people's mouths and changing what they wrote in subtle, and sometimes not so subtle, ways to better support your misguided conceptions. I doubt you will see it that way, as this has probably become seond nature to you by now, and is not done with conscious effort on your part. I'm sure it serves you well in other areas of your life. But personally I find it transparent and annoying. It is also an indication of something.....nevermind, this isn't the place.

I'll leave it open to you for the last word, I know that's an important to you. Goodbye.
For someone who opened their previous post with such biting sarcasm you certainly seem like a sensitive type.

Can I say misinterpretation, you say? Its a long word, you say.

Imagine sitting in debate class.

Imagine standing up and saying - 'the world is square, but I dont expect any of you idiots to understand'.

Then imagine sitting back down announcing- 'i'll leave it open to you guys to have the last word - it obviously seems important to you - good bye.'

Thats basically what you have done.

I hope this technique serves you well in whatever mode of life you find yourself when you finish school.

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