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Old 03-17-2006, 11:50 PM   #21
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The key phrase I see is "could" play for that country. Which means they could play for the United States if they wanted too???
Or they could play for the country they were born an raised in. What's the big deal? So they make money here. Isn't that what we want out of Pro sports? To have the best players in the world playing?

MLB is a business, international play is for pride. Something American's seem to lack these days.
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Old 03-18-2006, 12:00 AM   #22
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Or they could play for the country they were born an raised in. What's the big deal? So they make money here. Isn't that what we want out of Pro sports? To have the best players in the world playing?

MLB is a business, international play is for pride. Something American's seem to lack these days.
When you watch one of these games in Puerto Rico or see footage of the Caribbean series you see what amounts to a party in the stands. The fans want to win as much as the players do. They have flags in the stands, their faces are painted, they all have team colors on, its a real sense of pride. They live pitch to pitch. These are things you dont see in the MLB near as much, the only time you see people get pumped up is in the stretch run. Even a mid season rivalry game doesnt get people as emotional as it once did. Hopefully this foreign influx will help foster this sense of pride in your team.
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Old 03-18-2006, 03:03 PM   #23
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Or they could play for the country they were born an raised in. What's the big deal? So they make money here. Isn't that what we want out of Pro sports? To have the best players in the world playing?

MLB is a business, international play is for pride. Something American's seem to lack these days.
I wonder if there was ever a "Play for Pay-International Tournament" if these guys would still want to play for their home team??
It would just be nice to see some of these players say "Playing baseball in the United States has tremendously improved my life and that of my family and I would like to show a gesture of appreciation and loyalty and play for the U.S. Team".
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Old 03-18-2006, 03:14 PM   #24
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Maybey they come here to play their respective sport at the highest level against the best competition and not because of the better standard of living which in the case of Europe is actually a lower standard of living. From what your saying if someone from Pittsburgh moves to Cleveland because of their Job they should root for the Browns.
Actually from a report I seen on television a couple of years back they exampled European basketball and how the teams over there have passed the U.S. as far as fundamental skills and playing better as an overall team/s.
That's why the U.S. doesn't dominate in international basketball like they had several years back.

Using the move from Pittsburgh to Cleveland isn't a good comparison because that doesn't involve millions of dollars or nationalism.
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Actually from a report I seen on television a couple of years back they exampled European basketball and how the teams over there have passed the U.S. as far as fundamental skills and playing better as an overall team/s.
That's why the U.S. doesn't dominate in international basketball like they had several years back.

Using the move from Pittsburgh to Cleveland isn't a good comparison because that doesn't involve millions of dollars or nationalism.
The American style of play is much different than the European style. The Europeans lack bigman down low skills, but they shoot the three better than we do because of it. It is like the difference between North American hockey and European hockey. Playing as a team is important in basketball ala the Detroit Pistons who would beat most european national teams because they have played as a team and were not thrown together a month before the tourney. The Cleveland example is valid, an athelete taking an extra few million to play in the USA instead of for example the Mexican league is the same as taking a job in Cleveland for a few thousand dollars more a year. The pride in Pittsburgh and in particular sports and the Steelers is similar to the pride these players have in their country.
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I guess there's actually talk of eliminating the all-star game, shortening the season to 154 games, and holding the WBC game in it's place.

Interesting idea, but I'm not about to hold my breath.
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Cuba beats the Dominican Republic. Japan beats Korea. I think we had as good as a chance as anybody in the tournament.
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Americas past time, Baseball????? How many Americans even play anymore. The NFL, and football is where its at!
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Football in the olympics......let's do it.
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Americas past time, Baseball????? How many Americans even play anymore. The NFL, and football is where its at!
The new saying that's been out for a few years now is "Baseball may be Americas Past time but Football is Americas Passion".

Unfortunatley, I think the NFL is making the inroads into trying to make the NFL a more global sport. We already see preseason games being played overseas and the regular season game in Mexico City last season. The grumblings of the Superbowl being played outside the U.S. in the distant future and possible European expansion down the road as well.
This will not be good for the "Native" NFL fans in the future.
NFL Football could look totally different in the next 25-30yrs.
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