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Old 11-18-2010, 10:38 AM   #1
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Default What if the Government Ran the NFL?

Suppose the White House takes over the NFL due to a protracted labor dispute. The fans need Football.

Here are some changes we could expect:
Reed would not have been fired. Tomlin would place a note in his file about his kicking performance. Each admin in the FO would read and sign the poor performance note.
Jeff Reed could then attach a written response to the note. Reeds response would then go to Tomlin and the FO for review. They could then add their response. Then Reed could respond to their response. Finally, the poor performance note would be sent to the Rooneys and to the Players Union. The Rooney's would weigh in with an action plan to correct the poor performance. The Players Union would then have to sign off on the action plan.

Reed would be given a probation period of 3 games to improve his kick percentage. If he fails to improve his kick percentage, Tomlin will file a new poor performance note and the above procedures will be followed.

After 3 poor performance notes, Reed will be sent to a committee consisting of Steelers FO management and Player Union representatives for a hearing.
The committee could at this point recommend to the Rooney's to fire Reed, suspend him with pay, or place him on special performance standards roster and allow him to return next season.

If the committee decides to fire Reed, then Reed can appeal. During the appeal process, Reed can submit evidence and bring witnesses as to why he should not be fired.

If the committee determines that Reed is being fired due to performance issues, then that is not fair grounds for termination. In this case, the Steelers will have to assign a kicking coach and special training sessions to raise his performance level.

If the committee finds that Reed has violated ethical policies, then Reed can only be fired on his 3rd offense.

If the committee finds that Reed has been convicted of a felony, then Reed can be fired.

During all these procedures, Reed must receive his full compensation.


Of course, I've just outlined what it takes to fire a public school teacher. Can you imagine how great public schools would be if they followed the NFL approach?



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Old 11-18-2010, 10:40 AM   #2
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Default Re: What if the Government Ran the NFL?

Can you imagine how great it would be if political threads were posted in the Locker Room?
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Old 11-18-2010, 10:54 AM   #3
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Is the whole point of this to say if the government ran the NFL that Reed would still be on the team?
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:25 AM   #4
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Default Re: What if the Government Ran the NFL?

thats pretty funny.

I have to leave this thread now permanently as just the mere sight of the teachers/teachers union BS has already shot my blood pressure to the moon in seconds.
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:12 PM   #5
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The post is a joke. It points out a huge problem between the private sector and government. That's why the private sector is much more efficient than the government sector.
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:50 PM   #6
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The post is a joke. It points out a huge problem between the private sector and government. That's why the private sector is much more efficient than the government sector.
So who exactly lives in your "much more efficient" private sector

Lehman Brothers?
General Motors?
Chrysler?
Bear Stearns?
Citigroup?
AIG?

And with regard to the superiority of "the private sector" we all know "government" schoolteachers get as many chances as "private sector" Santonio Holmes to test positive for illegal drugs before getting fired for that conduct, don't we?

And since I am taking a wild guess what your position is on government involvement in health care, here is a quote for you
Nor is there any reason why the state should not assist individuals in providing for those common hazards of life against which, because of their uncertainty, few individuals can make adequate provision. Where, as in the case of sickness and accident, neither the desire to avoid such calamities nor the efforts to overcome their consequences are as a rule weakened by the provision of assistance, where, in short, we deal with genuinely insurable risks, the case for the state helping to organise a comprehensive system of social insurance is very strong. There are many points of detail where those wishing to preserve the competitive system and those wishing to supersede it by something different will disagree on the details of such schemes; and it is possible under the name of social insurance to introduce measures which tend to make competition more or less ineffective. But there is no incompatibility in principle between the state providing greater security in this way and the preservation of individual freedom.
Friedrich August Hayek - The Road To Serfdom

If Hayek did not talk in absolutes consider the possibility "the private sector is much more efficient than the government sector" might be a nice talking point for chatting with Rush, Sean or Savage but is not a one size fits all argument for all occassions, including but not limited to Jeff Reed's situation.

After my experiences arguing politics in the Locker Room during 2008 I have made it a point to stay out of this section of the board since I returned to this site several months ago

But since you wanted to ride your "government is bad/private sector is good" hobby horse into the Steelers section of the board I might as well respond with the hope that anyone wanting to make a political point from the right or the left will take it to the right section.
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Old 11-18-2010, 09:56 PM   #7
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Atlanta Dan,

Hayek is talking about severe illness or disasters. He's not talking about when you have your appendix or tonsils taken out. 80% to 90% of healthcare deals with non life threatening treatments. I think Hayek would agree with me that socialized medicine is not the way to go.

The government has a responsibility if there is a Hurricane Katrina or an earthquake or some other disaster to step in and give assistance. I also think that the government should assist people who have catastrophic illnesses and don't have insurance.

I think you misunderstand Hayek if you think he wants socialized medicine.

Hayek wrote (The Constitution of Liberty) that government could take the lead in fashioning institutions in the private market – and so if those w/pre-existing conditions are the primary problem, then institutional reform of insurance might be an area where legislators could be involved; however, that doesn’t justify a comprehensive reform of the WHOLE private market, nor the PROHIBITION of private competition (as the U.S. House bill clearly would do on Pg. 16 – though apologists deny this by speaking as if the right to purchase exchange-ready plans is the same as the right for a willing buyer and willing seller of a policy to freely contract).
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F.A. Hayek stated in the preface to the 1976 edition of The Road to Serfdom. The problems of the American healthcare system are caused entirely by the fact that the government subjects the system to massive interventions, some of which are fascist in nature, while others are socialist.
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To think that Hayek favored socialized medicine is absurd. Hayek was not an anarchist. Government was necessary in society. Hayek recognized that and so it does have role to play. Hayek thought that US Government has over stepped it authority regarding healthcare.

F.A. Hayek stated in the preface to the 1976 edition of The Road to Serfdom. The problems of the American healthcare system are caused entirely by the fact that the government subjects the system to massive interventions, some of which are fascist in nature, while others are socialist.
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If the government run the NFL, the NFL would run up a huge debt with money owed to MLB and prosoccer... and the NHL too and the NFL players would be paying a huge amount of taxes for generations to come...
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