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Old 03-29-2006, 07:36 PM   #11
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Default Re: QB cannot be "forcibly" Hit Below Knees

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I think that one was his fault. I didn't really mean look down right away after you throw (like when Ben got hit, that has innoviodable) I mean like the Palmer one. He had already thrown and followed threw, yet he was still watching the ball fly when he got hit. He could've moved.
So this is another earnest question. If you were coaching a QB, would you say that the QB should follow the ball for a moment or two and then look around to see who is comming at him. Or should the QB immediately back peddle after the throw to move out of the bullseye?
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Old 03-29-2006, 07:53 PM   #12
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Default Re: QB cannot be "forcibly" Hit Below Knees

You said "Look down", and I took that literally.

If you mean look downfield, then, yeah, as a QB, I was taught to spin the ball down so that my forefinger, after releasing the ball clock wise, ended up facing my receiver, and down towards the ground.

I had to "Unlearn" my natural spin which was counter clock-wise.
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Old 03-29-2006, 08:05 PM   #13
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Default Re: QB cannot be "forcibly" Hit Below Knees

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You said "Look down", and I took that literally.

If you mean look downfield, then, yeah, as a QB, I was taught to spin the ball down so that my forefinger, after releasing the ball clock wise, ended up facing my receiver, and down towards the ground.

I had to "Unlearn" my natural spin which was counter clock-wise.
I was commenting on the following quote, which seems to represent the view held by most Steeler fans:
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Here's a good way for all QB's to avoid injuries:

QUIT WATCHING THE F**KING BALL AND MOVE OUT OF THE WAY.

If you watch, just about every below hit could be avoided by the QB if he would actually look down after he throws.
So I am asking if QBs are trained to keep an eye on the ball once it is thrown or should they immediately take evasive actions for any potential hit? If they should get evasive, how are they supposed to do that?

BTW Suit, how the heck did you get in the habit of releasing the ball with a counter clockwise spin? (I am assuming you are right handed.) I am having trouble imaging how to do that.
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Old 03-29-2006, 08:46 PM   #14
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Default Re: QB cannot be "forcibly" Hit Below Knees

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I was commenting on the following quote, which seems to represent the view held by most Steeler fans:


So I am asking if QBs are trained to keep an eye on the ball once it is thrown or should they immediately take evasive actions for any potential hit? If they should get evasive, how are they supposed to do that?

BTW Suit, how the heck did you get in the habit of releasing the ball with a counter clockwise spin? (I am assuming you are right handed.) I am having trouble imaging how to do that.
I just did what my QB coach told me to do, and it helped a lot.
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Old 03-29-2006, 09:00 PM   #15
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Default Re: QB cannot be "forcibly" Hit Below Knees

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Here's a good way for all QB's to avoid injuries:

QUIT WATCHING THE F**KING BALL AND MOVE OUT OF THE WAY.

If you watch, just about every below hit could be avoided by the QB if he would actually look down after he throws.
Good Point.
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Default Re: QB cannot be "forcibly" Hit Below Knees

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Here's a good way for all QB's to avoid injuries:

QUIT WATCHING THE F**KING BALL AND MOVE OUT OF THE WAY.

If you watch, just about every below hit could be avoided by the QB if he would actually look down after he throws.
Easier said than done, my friend. It's like a jump shot in basketball, you have to follow through...if you're so concerned with avoiding a defender, chances are your accuracy will be affected. The split second between the throw and the hit goes by a lot quicker when you're on the field. Hindsight's 20/20.
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Default Re: QB cannot be "forcibly" Hit Below Knees

Once the ball is away from your hand, you can't do ANYTHING to afect the outcome. That needs to be a conscious thing to train QBs to act on.
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Default Re: QB cannot be "forcibly" Hit Below Knees

When you do a jump shot in basketball though some players fade away so that whether they miss or make the shot they are ready to be on the other end of the court to do defense. It would seem that even if a QB was done with a throw (past approx 2 seconds for that follow through action) he could look around or possibly even back peddle slightly to get out of the way of the still moving line. This idea might sound dumb as hell and if it does don't mock me...but arguing that doing such a thing would only put the QB in more danger of trippin backwards over a person behind would falter because in most passin plays the QB is first in a pocket but in most cases by the time the ball is released the QB has faded back towards the back of the pocket and has no one behind him that could hit him....if he just back peddled a few steps that would put him out of range of being hit by another player...Dlinemen are smart enough to see whether the QB would still have the ball or not by that time. I don't know just a suggestion.

As far as all these dumb rules it just seems that the more they open the officiating to subjective calls the more chance of bad calls and bias influence on the game.


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Default Re: QB cannot be "forcibly" Hit Below Knees

Well Hell lets just put in a rule that says you can't rush the QB....I've said this before no matter what they do to protect the QB's injuries are going to happen....lets just say for arguement sake the QB quickly looks away from the ball after he throws it...where does he go or look first for someone? to the right? what if someone is coming from the left....to the left? what if someone is coming from the right? Why doesn't every team hire a QB spotter like in Nascar and he can yell through the helmet radio "clear left" "clear right"
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Old 03-30-2006, 09:24 AM   #20
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Default Re: QB cannot be "forcibly" Hit Below Knees

I can understand this rule cause QBs are the most vulnerable and losing a QB will end your season. They gotta loosen up on all the other roughing the passer crap though.....cause I cant understand bein flagged 15 yards for tapping a QB in the helmet with your hand or barely touching them after a throw and they fall.
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