Terry Bradshaw: Top 10 QBs under 30

[MDSteel15]

Originally Posted by thumper

I'm fairly shocked he has Ben at 2, to be honest. And, seriously, yes, Ben won
two rings, but Marino never won a ring. I think just watching them play, I can
make an argument for Rivers. There is a lot more to winning a ring than JUST
the QB play alone - i.e. entire rest of the team, over all talent, intangibles, coach
staff, etc. An argument can be made that if Rivers didn't have garbage head
coach, he would have won some rings by now. It's been proven 1000 times over,
if you don't have a legit head coach, you can't win the big one. Norv is a good guy,
good OC, but has never appeared to be a legit head coach.

Barry Switzer got a ring! George Seifert, too...

[GMU Steeler]

Originally Posted by plenewken

Oh, I got it now. It's playoffs record, not season record.
I'm fine with Ben although I wouldn't mind less sacks. I'm essentially frustrated with what Arians asks him to do.

All good. Yeah, that's probably the part about his game I like least but then again that kinda goes with his ability to extend plays which is something I really like about his games. And I think nearly all of us are frustrated about what Arians asks him to do. Hope we get a new OC or a change in philosophy next year though I will say that having a less than fully healthy O-Line has hurt too.

[cloppbeast]

Originally Posted by MDSteel15

Barry Switzer got a ring! George Seifert, too...

So did Brad Johnson.

[MDSteel15]

Originally Posted by TRH

that's ok, i'll still take Ben over Rivers.

Yeah, Vick is not under 30 so he's not on there but whats up with him this year? Looks like the second coming of Joe Montana.

PLEASE!!!! Don't ever insult Joe like that....

[MDSteel15]

Originally Posted by cloppbeast

So did Brad Johnson.

Brad Johnson was a player, not a coach! So for that, so did Trent Dilfer....

[ricardisimo]

Originally Posted by plenewken

Oh, I got it now. It's playoffs record, not season record.
I'm fine with Ben although I wouldn't mind less sacks. I'm essentially frustrated with what Arians asks him to do.

No, it's not. It's exactly what it says it is above the chart: "2010 Team Record".

[plenewken]

Originally Posted by GMU Steeler

All good. Yeah, that's probably the part about his game I like least but then again that kinda goes with his ability to extend plays which is something I really like about his games. And I think nearly all of us are frustrated about what Arians asks him to do. Hope we get a new OC or a change in philosophy next year though I will say that having a less than fully healthy O-Line has hurt too.

Yes it hurts but Arians knows that our O-Line is depleted so why isn't he changing his game plan accordingly?
I don't see any difference between his calls in week 1 and in week 11, despite all the injuries.
I hope he goes, even if we win the SB.

[ricardisimo]

Originally Posted by MDSteel15

Barry Switzer got a ring! George Seifert, too...

Exactly Atlanta Dan's point, I think. They had Aikman and Young making them look like geniuses... at least for long enough to get a ring.

[MDSteel15]

Now, for all of you saying I' take ehis one and that one, look at the list:

1 Philip Rivers Chargers 28 104.9 6-5
2 Ben Roethlisberger Steelers 28 99.1 8-3
3 Aaron Rodgers Packers 26 97.4 7-4
4 Matt Ryan Falcons 25 94.4 9-2
5 Sam Bradford Rams 23 82.0 5-6
6 Joe Flacco Ravens 25 93.2 8-3
7 Mark Sanchez Jets 24 81.9 9-2
8 Josh Freeman Buccaneers 22 89.3 7-4
9 Eli Manning Giants 29 90.3 7-4
10 Matt Schaub Texans 29 92.6 5-6

You put Ben behind Indy or New Englands front lines and he is easily best! Why? You can say what you want about him holding the ball but Peyton and Brady can stand back there all night and not get touched! Half the time so does Flacco, Ryan and Sanchez! So don't, DON'T tell me he holds it too long all the time because the o-line for the most part is tragic... The next 2 drafts should be nothing but O-line, D-line and DBs! Until we get the dam plugged.... And until the little hot headed a$$ Rivers proves anything, he can't be our backup

[MDSteel15]

Originally Posted by ricardisimo

Exactly Atlanta Dan's point, I think. They had Aikman and Young making them look like geniuses... at least for long enough to get a ring.

In my opinion Young is overrated! And Tray had a monster o-line, 2 very good WRS and a great TE that we gave them! Oh, and Emmitt.