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Old 12-04-2010, 07:33 AM   #1
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Default Perfect week for a different approach?

With our offensive woes and the issues we have on our line, and now.. at the QB position, could this be the perfect week for Arians (if he's smart enough) to tinker with the playbook and hit Baltimore with some things they could never see coming? Could this be our week that we see the Steelers pull a "Cleveland" and do what they did against the Saints and Patriots & hit them with trick play upon trick play to their advantage? Could this be the game we hit the Ravens with something they haven't seen, kind of like what the Dolphins did to the Patriots some years ago with the Wild-Cat?

I sure hope so. Looking at our history with this team and how each of us play the same kind of ball since our existence & judging by the problems we now face with not only matchups, but injuries, I hope we can gain some kind of an edge and change our priorities, only it's just for one game to SOMEHOW get out of Baltimore with a MUCH needed "W."

EVERY game is a big game in this league. This happens to be H-U-G-E.

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Old 12-04-2010, 02:23 PM   #2
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Default Re: Perfect week for a different approach?

Nope, we will still see

Run directly into the center of the line for no gain
Run directly into the line for a 2 yard gain
Pass 5 yards
Punt

We all know it, every defense in the history of the NFL knows it and the Cub Scout flag football team knows it.

Ariens is incapable of change.
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Old 12-04-2010, 03:14 PM   #3
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I'll doubt we'll see change. Although I do think we need to get Heath Miller back into the offense. He used to be one of Ben's main targets and defense had to adjust to him opening up other receivers. But now.....Well You know...
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Old 12-04-2010, 03:39 PM   #4
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I'll doubt we'll see change. Although I do think we need to get Heath Miller back into the offense. He used to be one of Ben's main targets and defense had to adjust to him opening up other receivers. But now.....Well You know...
I agree. Unfortunate thing is, is that Heath is too valuable and he is needed more-so for support right now VS option in the passing game. Our O-line is so banged up at the moment that Ben needs all the protection he needs and Heath is the man off the edge that gives us our best option at edge protection since he's a big body and a nice blocker as well.

Hopefully come playoff time (knock on wood) Heath will see more touches. If we can somehow manage to draw up a game-plan and give Ben time, then Heath will let loose. Until then, he will be used as a extra blocker in a scheme so desperate for protection of our quarterback.
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Old 12-04-2010, 04:10 PM   #5
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Nope, we will still see

Run directly into the center of the line for no gain
Run directly into the line for a 2 yard gain
Pass 5 yards
Punt

We all know it, every defense in the history of the NFL knows it and the Cub Scout flag football team knows it.

Ariens is incapable of change.
Not to defend Bruce Arians, but, he would get really confused reading NFL message boards.

For two years, Steelers fans balked at his pass-first offense, and how we never run the ball. And when we did run the ball, Arians "got cute" and would design overly elaborate running plays that inevitably get blown up in the backfield bfore they can launch.

Now, that we are trying to "pound the rock" and play Cowher-ball, everyone is bagging on him for running the ball up the gut on 1st downs.

I think Arians' situational playcalling is terrible, but seriously, some fans just can't be pleased, no matter what.
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Not to defend Bruce Arians, but, he would get really confused reading NFL message boards.

For two years, Steelers fans balked at his pass-first offense, and how we never run the ball. And when we did run the ball, Arians "got cute" and would design overly elaborate running plays that inevitably get blown up in the backfield bfore they can launch.

Now, that we are trying to "pound the rock" and play Cowher-ball, everyone is bagging on him for running the ball up the gut on 1st downs.

I think Arians' situational playcalling is terrible, but seriously, some fans just can't be pleased, no matter what.
I can agree with this. It's not necc "running the ball more" or "passing on this down and running on this down" certain percentages (we've been VERY balanced this season) of field position and the flow of the game determine EVERY play call but I agree that it's more SITUATIONAL play calling than the play calling itself. Like a reverse play on your own 19 yard line on a short field or 3 straight running plays up the middle (when it got stuffed twice for negative yardage) with your fullback on the INCH line when you have possibly the biggest and strongest QB in the game to lunge forward.

He called a HELLUVA game against Oakland, probably the best I've seen since his tenure here. Lets hope he's on top of his game this Sunday Night (even though that's not saying too much.)
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I agree. Unfortunate thing is, is that Heath is too valuable and he is needed more-so for support right now VS option in the passing game. Our O-line is so banged up at the moment that Ben needs all the protection he needs and Heath is the man off the edge that gives us our best option at edge protection since he's a big body and a nice blocker as well.

Hopefully come playoff time (knock on wood) Heath will see more touches. If we can somehow manage to draw up a game-plan and give Ben time, then Heath will let loose. Until then, he will be used as a extra blocker in a scheme so desperate for protection of our quarterback.
Yea that is true. I can't believe how much damage our line has taken this year. I'm glad Ben is used to getting hit otherwise I'd a hella lot more worried. But we always find ways to win games which separates us from a lot of football teams out there. Like the bills, no offense to them they a highly competitive football team, but they tend to always find ways to lose. Which is why despite all the problems we might be having right now I like our chances this year.
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There's two sides of the coin to those "trick plays." If we fake a punt in our territory and it backfires it could prove to be detrimental. What did that Browns/Saints game and Dolphins/Pats game have in common? Both the Browns and Dolphins were heavy underdogs - they had nothing to lose by trying those trick plays. With Pitt/Baltimore games, it's pretty much a coin toss on who will win, so not that I'm against it, but I don't think there's a need to risk a trick-play backfiring.
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There's two sides of the coin to those "trick plays." If we fake a punt in our territory and it backfires it could prove to be detrimental. What did that Browns/Saints game and Dolphins/Pats game have in common? Both the Browns and Dolphins were heavy underdogs - they had nothing to lose by trying those trick plays. With Pitt/Baltimore games, it's pretty much a coin toss on who will win, so not that I'm against it, but I don't think there's a need to risk a trick-play backfiring.
Meh, I don't necc buy into the under-dog thing. The Pats saw the Browns take it to the World Champion Saints a week earlier so they knew they were capable.

The Steelers and Ravens have played the same style of game and have played it more than a decade now. It might not change, but since both teams play almost identical to one another, I think this is the perfect scenario to try it.
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I can't even remember the last time we faked a punt tbh
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